Hey guys, I love kde themes, I could download them all night! (KDE feels bloated, but the themes are so damn pretty) So, I use baghira - but would really love to have the OSX app bar at the bottom. Is there a way to make KDE have that, or is there even a desktop environment that does stuff like that? Thanks a bunch, this is as close to an appl i can get without opening the wallet! -Bill

Search kde-look.org for Kxdocker it should cover what you're after

http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?scre...d9a84&p=screen

This is a screenshot of my current desktop. I'll admit it isn't a "perfect" replica of OS X but it is as close as I can get it. The application which does the icons at the bottom (which you can double click to lauch the application) is idesk.

I use fluxbox, with a modified version of the FluxAqua theme -- the original version have the bubble's colors mixed up for their real application. (green used to minimize and yellow would max... which is the opposite from the real version)

It does lack some functionality you might want from OSX but it does a good enough job to keep my apple cravings at bay.

I'm having a problem with KXDocker with Fedora Core 2, compiled from source using the default KDE libraries that came with Fedora. After I open KXDocker and log out, then try to log back in, my X server hangs, even though I haven't relaunched KXDocker yet. Anyone else have this problem?

Also, I'm trying to use KXDocker with Enlightenment and this annoying menu bar appears above the dock. Anyone know how to get rid of this?

Maybe you should buy an imac or a mac mini and install linux on it along side mac. That way you can have the cake and eat it too.

heh heh

Frankly speaking, you can easily customise linux window manager to have a look and feel of an imac. That is the power of linux.

You get very good results from GNOME and some themes using Engage as your docker app. Search gnome-look.org there's like a 26MB download there somewhere with everything you need, a friend got me to set it up for him and it actually looked pretty good.

Try out fvwm if you really want to make it look and act like OS X. This are just two examples I found really quick on the net. They are based on fvwm 2.5, which is what I use. It is the most customizable window manager of all time.

http://www.clan-hash.com/~guli/scree...X_Milky-02.jpg

http://www.clan-hash.com/~guli/scree...-OSX_Milky.jpg


Here is another with mac runing in linux. I've done it myself but pearpc is a work in progress and you only get 50% of your cpu. It's coming along though.

http://www.clan-hash.com/~guli/scree...wm20050216.jpg

And another screenshot from the fvwm site.

http://fvwm.org/screenshots/desktops...theme=navigate

I like that one the best and use something close to it. Fvwm also takes up almost no ram and is so much more responsive then either gnome or kde. But you do have to put some work into it to get what you want but it is well worth it.

Why would anyone voluntarily setup a computer with a Mac interface if they didn' t have to?

weasel, it's because we can, and for free -- and it looks cool

Using fvwm is pretty sweet - it uses NO ram, but usually stinks, so if this works out, good times!

Ok, now i'm hooked - tell me more!
Whats in that fvwm?
-Docker Bar
-Terminal app (transparency)
-Top bar
-Icons theme


Now - I like fluxbox a TON
Is all this stuff fluxbox aplicable?

If not, I'd me more that willing to try fvwm for a time

-Docker Bar
-Terminal app (transparency)
-Top bar
-Icons theme

Fluxbox thems are not compatible with fvwm. I agree with you the default theme is ugly as hell. If you are willing to put in some work you can make fvwm look awesome.

The dock bar is using a fvwmbuttons module. The cpu, ram, disk, and net monitors are xosview. It compiles in 2 minutes and has no dependicies.

The transparent terminal is aterm. Compiles in 5 minutes and requires the tiny imlib.

The file manager is rox. It is the best file manager I've ever used. It flys up and down the hierarchy fast as hell. Compiles in 5 minutes. No dependecy, except mime data from X11, you should have it already. It using the Mac OS X icons. Download of the net or grab the originals from a OS X cd if you got one. Use the convert program to convert them to png format.

There is also a thumbnail/dethumbnail feature that takes a snapshot of a window and uses that as the icon. Same as OS X. That part of fvwm.

The bottom bar is engage from e17. It requires practically the entire e17 base from CVS. I don't use it. It's up to you.

A better way is to use fvwmbutton or the yab or module bar from adesklets. Adesklets compiles in 5 minutes and requires the imlib but you have that already from aterm. It's identical to gdesklets and superkarma except it is way faster and lighter becuase it only requires imlib and of course python.

Ok, wow fvwm is a pain to get set up!

I'm not giving up yet though - I love rox, great app. I can't seem to find the site for emerge e17, although I'm still not quite sure what it is. As I understand it, it's a mac-like zooming icon bar. Which is what I want. But I want one that doesn't run slow as hell (kxdocker). Now, what is the basic theme for that fvwm? It would help just to get off that awful defualt theme. Thanx again for all this help, with a little more work I think I can get fvwm working great!

Would you mind explaining the top bar a little for me? As I understand it, it's xosview - but that is a very utilitarian program unless it gets customized a ton. Still, how sould it even take that shape?

I wouldn't recommend using the engage e17 unless you are use to compiling from source. Use either the fvwmbuttons or adesklets I mentioned. Lot easier. In order to get engage you have to use the cvs e17, which is going to be tough unless you've done it before. It is also very time consuming.

fvwm beginners guide
http://www.zensites.net/fvwm/guide/index.html

fvwmbuttons guide. intro to a basic mac os x bar using fvwmbuttons.
http://www.zensites.net/fvwm/guide/a...d_buttons.html

or use a yab or modular bar from adesklets
http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/images/yab_thumb.jpg
http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/ima...ubar_thumb.jpg

They are scripted in python, but not that hard to customize to your liking. Looks like english text



Xosview is easy. Just download the source and compile it. It quick and painless. The fvwmbuttons has a command called swallow that well effectively swallow the xosview, not hard. Download the theme from the OSX_MILKY screenshot and look at the configs. There are at the same domain.

http://www.clan-hash.com/~guli/index.php?page=osx

the configs are in english because fvwm doesn't speak french so don't worry

Well, I'll need some time to play with all that, so thank you very much!

Now, I'm looking for a good docker app for fluxbox. I figure I can use fluxbox muxh easier, with aqua skins and whatnot, then use a goood docker app. ksmoothdock is really junky, kxdocker is just painfully slow - I'm hoping I'll hit gold with engage, but it seems impossible to dl. Is there a quick and painless way to get the source for it? (and yes, I am very confortable compiling from source)

As for fvwm2, I'm not sure if I want to pursue this. It's very hard to configure, and in the end all I want is a fast wm with a docker bar that doesn't crawl.

Is there a quick and painless way to get the source for it?

Like I've said 3 times already, no.

You have to download it from cvs, requires cvs tool and then build practically an entier e17 base, i.e englightenment devolopement tree. It take a couple of hours. You have to build the libs in the right order becuase of dependencies, read all the readme files and such to figure out what depends on what. Just for an engage bar it's kinda a lot. There all alternatives though like I mentioned

chbin - you are the man

I've got so much info now, I am SET. Granted, I may drop the whole thing after a long time of fiddling... but still!

Thanx again! -Bill