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Old 09-01-2010, 09:49 PM   #1
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Any Reason Not To Revert To Ubuntu 9.10? (Brasero bug now!)


Hey Boys and Girls,

Seems every time things are starting to go smoothly and I'm loving Linux, a new problem rears it's ugly head!

Tried to copy an audio CD today. Got an "unknown error" message from Brasero. Googled it, and found out that it's yet another bug. Tried a fix that I found:


Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:renbag/ppa
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
And not only did it not work, but it re-updated my already updated system!

Funny thing is, before I upgraded my system last week (on purpose- not the above-mentioned "fix" upgrade) I was able to copy audio CDs with Brasero in Ubuntu.

I'm starting to feel like I'm back in Win-D'ohs. It's always something.

What I'm wondering, is if there are any reasons that I shouldn't switch to an older version of Ubuntu, which I would imagine has the bugs worked out?

It seems like the one thing Ubuntu and Win-D'ohs have in common, is that every time they "improve" and update their product, something else breaks.
 
Old 09-01-2010, 09:58 PM   #2
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There's really no reason not to except that Ubuntu drops support for their releases when the new one comes out so you won't be getting security updates. I installed 10.04 just to check out last night, and while I admittedly haven't done much with it, I haven't had any problems and it can deal with my Iphone out of the box which I thought was pretty neat. Usually problems can be worked out. You might look at the last round of updates to see if anything there relates.
 
Old 09-01-2010, 11:43 PM   #3
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You could use a different piece of software for now. Many like k3b.

By the way, if you prefer Brasero, you should be able to downgrade and fix the version so it doesn't get upgraded again.

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Old 09-02-2010, 12:50 AM   #4
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Even with Gnome, I like to have K3B with me for media burning. Brasero just does not come near to it. And I have not had issues with K3B. Instead of downgrading the Ubuntu version, I would use K3b instead and be happy.
 
Old 09-02-2010, 01:25 AM   #5
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even on fedora and Arch and openSUSE ( all gnome) i like a bunch of kde apps better
k3b is one of those .Brasero just dose not do what i need it to do
except for one nice gnome/nautilus menu item for rw dvd's " blank the disk "

keep it installed but also install k3b , it works just fine without the whole kde desktpo
 
Old 09-02-2010, 01:33 AM   #6
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Sumguy, how would Mint sound? You can easily write it to a USB flash drive using USB Creator and then try it yourself. That's what I did (again: I started out with Mint 7, then Ubuntu [Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid, Maverick] and now Mint 9 - go figure!) and I love it: Very few bugs, that's for sure!
 
Old 09-02-2010, 02:00 AM   #7
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Sumguy, how would Mint sound? You can easily write it to a USB flash drive using USB Creator and then try it yourself. That's what I did (again: I started out with Mint 7, then Ubuntu [Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid, Maverick] and now Mint 9 - go figure!) and I love it: Very few bugs, that's for sure!
Ya know? I actually downloaded Mint a week or two ago- when I was having another problem with Ubuntu. I think I'll try the K3b as the others suggested- but if I keep having trouble with Ubuntu, Mint is definitely next on my list (If for no other reason than it comes with the codecs and extras that I would have to install manually in Ubuntu)

I do really like Ubuntu- but sheesh! I had to make so many changes- and I've only been using it for about 6 weeks now (Had to install Chromium; Thunderbird, Gimp, etc. and now....K3b - )

Thanks everyone, for the help. I'll install K3b and let you know how it goes!
 
Old 09-02-2010, 05:36 AM   #8
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Brasero always made coasters for me, even in 8.10, 9.04, and 9.10. K3B was awesome, but I didn't want to download all those QT dependencies! So I tried Xburn and it works great - every time, no coasters. And not a whole buncha dependencies either. Just another suggestion.

As for going back to 9.10, alot of folks have done so because 10.4 has had some boot, login, and display problems with Plymouth that haven't been fully ironed out yet. I always recommend - to newbies at least - that they stay "one release behind" the newest one, just because it usually takes at least 6 months or more to stabilize a new release.

-Robin
 
Old 09-02-2010, 07:00 AM   #9
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There's really no reason not to except that Ubuntu drops support for their releases when the new one comes out so you won't be getting security updates. I installed 10.04 just to check out last night, and while I admittedly haven't done much with it, I haven't had any problems and it can deal with my Iphone out of the box which I thought was pretty neat. Usually problems can be worked out. You might look at the last round of updates to see if anything there relates.
EoL for a release is not when a new version is released.
Ubuntu's life cycle is 18 months for non-LTS versions, 3 years for LTS desktop and 5 years for LTS server editions.

Plenty of time for updates
 
Old 09-02-2010, 10:11 AM   #10
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Brasero always made coasters for me, even in 8.10, 9.04, and 9.10. K3B was awesome, but I didn't want to download all those QT dependencies! So I tried Xburn and it works great - every time, no coasters. And not a whole buncha dependencies either. Just another suggestion.

As for going back to 9.10, alot of folks have done so because 10.4 has had some boot, login, and display problems with Plymouth that haven't been fully ironed out yet. I always recommend - to newbies at least - that they stay "one release behind" the newest one, just because it usually takes at least 6 months or more to stabilize a new release.

-Robin
Wish I would have seen that sooner! The K3B sure was a huge download- and I do prefer minimalist things. Ah well...at least I can copy CDs now. What kills me though, is that Brasero worked perfectly until I updated Ubuntu (which I only did to fix another problem).

This is starting to feel a lot like Windows- waiting for the next thing to go wrong (and with all those dependencies, I'm sure something will!)
 
Old 09-02-2010, 09:51 PM   #11
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This is starting to feel a lot like Windows- waiting for the next thing to go wrong (and with all those dependencies, I'm sure something will!)
This is exactly why I always advise newbies to Ubuntu to remain at least one release behind the newest one! It matters more if they are using older hardware, too. My 'puter is an older hand-me-down that just won't handle the newer releases. I'm sure they're great on newer machines, but as Ubuntu gears itself towards the better hardware, I can either use the older (but still supported) versions, or go back and revisit Debian, or PureOSLight, etc.

-Robin
 
Old 09-02-2010, 09:58 PM   #12
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EoL for a release is not when a new version is released.
Ubuntu's life cycle is 18 months for non-LTS versions, 3 years for LTS desktop and 5 years for LTS server editions.

Plenty of time for updates
My experience with 9.04 was quite different. Updates simply stopped when 9.10 came out. Granted I was on the Slacker's path by then, so it's entirely possible, and probably likely that it was a problem with my repos or something that I just didn't worry about fixing.
 
Old 09-02-2010, 10:10 PM   #13
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The K3B sure was a huge download- and I do prefer minimalist things.
K3B is an excellent CD / DVD burning app.
Since you are using Ubuntu with Gnome, I would have suggested gnomebaker. It is a
Gnome app that has always worked much better for me than Brasero. It used to be the default CD / DVD burning tool included with Ubuntu. I am not sure why they switched to Brasero; but Brasero has always been unreliable for me.
Since gnomebaker is not a KDE app, it would not need the boatload of KDE dependencies that Ubuntu adds to your system when you install K3B.

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Old 09-02-2010, 10:57 PM   #14
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I have to say that I haven't had any trouble using Brasero. In fact, I burned three cds just the other day.
What is true, though, is that it consistently fails to verify the integrity of discs after burning. At first I would throw them away as I thought that something was wrong with them but it turns out that they are perfectly fine; it is just the checksum that fails. Brasero appears to assume a block of zeroes at the end of an iso that is not there. I think the problem affects only specific brands of optical drive, though (mine are all NEC optiarcs). And it is not just Brasero, any other burning software I have tried - including K3B - has exactly the same problem.
 
Old 09-02-2010, 11:08 PM   #15
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I only have one machine that has no kde apps on it and there, brasero works just fine. I've never had a failed burn with it. It is likely an older version as it is whatever shipped the GSB 2.26.
 
  


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