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zincflip 07-28-2013 05:15 PM

Any Linux Distro Suggestion?
 
Fedora 17 is just abuot to hit EOL. And I try to give 19 a try... Let say I don't feel like using it again. Mostly what I look for: Is it stable. 2) And does it have good support for wacom and powerline adapter?
Linux Distro I don't want is Ubuntu(any version) and Arch Linux! I mostly stay away from Debian type of linux. Most of the time I find them to unstable to me. I don't mind if it kinda hard to used or is it easy. I just don't like it once it gose from hard to easy after a few days of used. Because of their system they force you to used.
I have a 64bit computer. tbh I was not sure were I should have posted this.

snowday 07-28-2013 05:28 PM

Welcome to the forums! "Suggest a distro" is probably the most frequently-asked question here, so please use the Search function. :)

When you ask for "a more stable version of Fedora" the first thing that comes to mind is Red Hat Enterprise Linux (and its free clones, CentOS and Scientific Linux). You will probably also get a lot of votes for Slackware. I personally gravitate toward Debian-family distros such as Debian and Mint (but sounds like that is not what you're looking for). ;)

zincflip 07-28-2013 05:57 PM

I have been looking. And try google. My main concern is my powerline adapter. I had have problem with other linux distro. Like, it stop working for almost a month before it start back up again. And that with a fresh insall. About the the Debian type. It was maybe 5 or 4 years ago. But back then that how they were for me. Maybe thing have work out for the better. But I'm not saying to leave them out.

TRUNoise 07-28-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine (Post 4998532)
Welcome to the forums! "Suggest a distro" is probably the most frequently-asked question here, so please use the Search function. :)

When you ask for "a more stable version of Fedora" the first thing that comes to mind is Red Hat Enterprise Linux (and its free clones, CentOS and Scientific Linux). You will probably also get a lot of votes for Slackware. I personally gravitate toward Debian-family distros such as Debian and Mint (but sounds like that is not what you're looking for). ;)

I second Snowpine's recommendation for Slackware though I am more Debian oriented as well mainly because I work with Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server every day, but as Snowpine said, doesn't look like what you're searching for.

TobiSGD 07-28-2013 06:16 PM

For your requirements (stable, no Arch, no Debian based distro) I would think that openSuse would be a distro that you may like.

TroN-0074 07-28-2013 07:27 PM

OpenSUSE, PC-BSD, Slackware, or CentOS are your best bet. check them out.
Good luck to you.

Timothy Miller 07-28-2013 07:32 PM

Not sure how well it supports the powerline adapter, but Slackware sounds like it would be right up your alley.

TobiSGD 07-28-2013 07:36 PM

Powerline adapters should be a non-issue on any Linux box if they are connected to the Ethernet port, since they will be totally transparent to the OS.

kooru 07-29-2013 04:13 AM

Slackware

joe_2000 07-29-2013 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zincflip (Post 4998528)
I mostly stay away from Debian type of linux. Most of the time I find them to unstable to me.

If the last time you used it was 4-5 years ago you may want to give it another try. I don't think Debian is known for being unstable...

itsgregman 07-29-2013 05:29 AM

Slackware is always my first suggestion to anyone with any Linux experience, in my opinion it is generally the most stable distribution available as well as being the one you'll learn the most about Linux using.

For newer users I usually recommend PcLinux, it has the excellent Mandriva style control center, is to me the most stable of the Mandriva derived distro's, and uses apt-get as its package manager.

fogpipe 07-29-2013 06:20 AM

Vector Linux. Vector comes with all the multi media libs already installed and if you need support there is a great forum on the Vector linux site. One of the cool things about the forum is that the dev team also hangs out there so you can get first hand info.
http://forum.vectorlinux.com/

There is also Slackware, which i prefer myself for various reasons.

jdkaye 07-29-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe_2000 (Post 4998780)
If the last time you used it was 4-5 years ago you may want to give it another try. I don't think Debian is known for being unstable...

This is quite true especially if you use Debian Stable. This is the distro used by many mission-critical servers. It's about as stable as it gets. As for Debian Testing, I've been maintaining a system in my friends' internet shop. It's been going for 5 years with virtually no downtime and a constant stream of users coming in off the street -- no better torture test than that. ;)
jdk

Virneto 07-29-2013 09:26 AM

Try out the Choosers and see what they suggest:
Test 1

Test 2 (my favorite)

Let us now the result.

Best Regards,

Philip Lacroix 07-29-2013 09:46 AM

Slackware and powerline adapters
 
I use Slackware with powerline adapters and I never had problems. As TobiSGD also pointed out, since you're using the power line as an Ethernet cable you shouldn't have issues with any OS, as long as your Ethernet interface is up and running. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zincflip (Post 4998528)
I don't mind if it kinda hard to used or is it easy. I just don't like it once it gose from hard to easy after a few days of used. Because of their system they force you to used.

There are plenty of distro suggestions here on LQ and elsewhere: of course many of them are biased, reflecting good or bad experiences people have made using them, as well as their "philosophical" points of view. Different people also expect different things from a distribution, and that's why there probably isn't an ultimate answer.

If I understand your post correctly, you are looking for a distro that doesn't "hold your hand", forcing you to use specific, user friendly tools that you don't like. I personally have used Debian for several years, and I still think that it's a terrific project. However, when I tried Slackware as a possible alternate solution for my needs I immediately felt more comfortable, because I didn't have to go through these distro-specific things every time, breaking them when I tried to follow some different path. With Slackware the learning curve might be somewhat steeper, but then you're absolutely free and "pilot in command" on your system. Of course you're also free to screw things up, but this is easily achievable with any distribution. :) There's also a friendly Slackware community right here on LQ.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zincflip (Post 4998528)
I have a 64bit computer.

If you decide to try it, Slackware is available as a 64bit system as well.

Kind regards,
Philip

DavidMcCann 07-29-2013 10:44 AM

As ever, most people tell you to use their distro. After all, it must be the best, or they wouldn't be using it!

I used Fedora from version 1 to 14, but it was getting so changeable that I felt like a mouse on a wheel. I'd tried Debian after Fedora 10, but I missed the Red Hat configuration tools and just generally found it uncongenial. So, as you see, I ended up with CentOS.

SUSE and PCLinuxOS have always struck me as reliable and easy to use; but SUSE is only reliable if you use KDE or Gnome, PCLOS just with KDE. If you don't mind, or even like, KDE or Gnome 3, that's obviously not a problem. Since you're presumably using one or the other, these may be the answer for you.

Slackware I'd only recommend for servers or programmers: there's just too much work involved getting software. But then my first requirement is a professional-grade word-processor, which obviously doesn't seem to be the case for Slackware's creator. But Salix and Vector put a human face on it and provide a decent supply of software ready-to-run, which is why I have Salix on my ancient laptop that finds CentOS a bit much.

Philip Lacroix 07-29-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidMcCann (Post 4998939)
As ever, most people tell you to use their distro. After all, it must be the best, or they wouldn't be using it!

Hi David - while probably this wasn't directed to my post, to be fair there's some difference between telling somebody to use your distro and simply answering to a suggestion request, speaking from your own experience (as for me it's difficult to speak from somebody else's experience). As I pointed out above, there are many discussions like this around, so one can easily point to them while providing something from his own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidMcCann (Post 4998939)
Slackware I'd only recommend for servers or programmers: there's just too much work involved getting software. But then my first requirement is a professional-grade word-processor, which obviously doesn't seem to be the case for Slackware's creator.

I'm not actually a programmer and I use Slackware as a multi-purpouse OS, mainly for web design, graphics editing, word processing, simulation, mail, multimedia, audio recording, CD and DVD burning. I have built several packages myself and, that's true, this can involve some more work. However, usually you build software once, then you can use the same build on several machines and for re-installs, storing your small private repository somewhere. Besides, with practice you'll get things done more quickly. From my experience Slackware provides an excellent base system, which allows you to do most work. I don't feel that PV's decisions are limiting me in any fashion, because if I miss something I can easily get it from the official upstream projects: libreoffice for example, and just about everything available out there. I personally like Slackware's "shortcomings", because for me they imply many more advantages. And because every option has its specific shortcomings, the final choice is up to you, based on what you care about: [edit] that's one of the great things in the linux ecosystem. :)

Respectfully,
Philip

zincflip 07-29-2013 05:10 PM

I give PCLinuxOS a try. Will it minime verison. I like the idea it does not give you useless software or at less not to many. And I like the fact it rolling release. I know slackware dose the same. It just I don't have the DVD or a spare usb port to used it. But I leave some space to give it a whirl. And my 3 favorite linux os that I like: openSUSE, Fedora, Salix OS. openSUSE and Fedora tend to go up and down for me. Salix OS I tried out when they came out with 13.37. It was fun to used on my old 32bit computer. tbh I don't care what DE or WM. I'm very open minded. Does Slackware give you option for lvm partitions setup?

Philip Lacroix 07-29-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zincflip (Post 4999185)
Does Slackware give you option for lvm partitions setup?

This is possible according to a document written by Eric Hameleers (member of the Slackware core team), which provides detailed instructions for installing the system on LV:

Installing Slackware on Logical volumes

Best regards,
Philip

zincflip 07-29-2013 06:15 PM

Taking a guess. If I used GParted to pre setup LVM. Before starting up the setup command. It should beable to partion it? I'm just asking. Because I never done anything like this before.

Philip Lacroix 07-30-2013 04:31 AM

Hi zincflip - gparted is a graphical partitioning tool which is not available for Slackware installation: in fact the distribution uses a text-based installer and partitioning is usually done with fdisk or cfdisk. These tools are also available after installation, while gparted is not included: if you need it you have to build and install it yourself, by creating a package using a slackbuild or some other building script, or by installing the build in the traditional way, without creating a package (the build scripts are the recommended way, as they allow a better and cleaner management of packages).

[edit] Of course, if you like gparted, you could create logical volumes from another distro, for example using a live DVD, then boot the Slackware installer and go with the setup, following Eric's instructions.[/edit]

If you are interested you can take a look at some Slackware documentation:

Slackware Linux Essentials: this is the official guide. It is still valid and also a very good reading on Linux in general. A new edition of the book is being prepared, is available here and contains some more up to date information. I suggest that you take a look at both.

Slackware Documentation Project: another excellent source of documentation.

You can find useful information on the Slackware web site as well.

HTH. :)

Philip


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