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Old 11-26-2002, 02:34 PM   #46
dogmeat
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Damn my post was gonna be alot worse then it actualy is because of that apology Mandrake9.0 works right outta the box, ive installed it on SO many machines and never had problems with it. When mandrake was installing what did you select for a mouse? It auto detects but even i go in and change all of that stuff. You said also you did an upgrade, I did that once, before a HD crashed. From 8.2 to 9.0. It was ugley, Try a fresh reinstall. It ALWAYS Works better that way.
 
Old 11-26-2002, 03:30 PM   #47
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Speaking as a newbie...
I managed to get RH 6.2 up and running on a loaned old P1 last year some time, but had to return the machine almost immediately. My laptop had non supported vid card. 10 days ago I fought my way through setting up RH7.3 on my (newish) main PC. Once again, no vid support, but I had a spare old card and after 8 or 9 installs finally got to the desktop.
With a combination of persistence and this (and other) forums I have progressed to being almost confident with gunzip/tar/mount
and one or two others.
I was bored with Windows, everything is either too easy or ridiculously hard. Yes, the Windows environment is computing for people who want it easy, and in some ways "setup.exe" and "specify destination of program" is a lot easier than "*.rpm" and "now that I've installed it, where is it???". On the other hand, I can't do much with Windows without spending LOADS of cash, and I don't have loads of cash. (The Gimp is not far off PaintShop Pro 6 standard and it comes free with RH. Unbelievable!) Each new breakthrough is a joy, guaranteed to be followed by more confusion and forum trawling but that makes it more joyful. As soon as I can afford an external modem I can (i hope) get RH online and so on.
Personally, I'm as happy as a pig in s***!
 
Old 11-26-2002, 10:30 PM   #48
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Horses for courses I say.
If all you want to be is an end-user, go ahead and use M$ (no user servicible parts inside ).

If you are looking for something more Linux is probably the best way you will ever learn how systems hang together. It is tough to start with but ultimately incredibly rewarding, and the skills you learn will help you not only with *nix (if you apply the discipline and rigour required in the building/configuration of *nix systems to windows you can *almost* make them stable).

Linux is DEFINITELY not for the lazy point-and-click type that "just wants things to work", you WILL have to take a look under the hood and configure it to the way YOU want it to work.

Note the emphasis on YOU. That is the beauty of Linux, you can adjust the system to work the way you do, unlike commercial software where the vendors expect you to change the way you work to suit their OS/software.

As I said before it can be tough making the move, but there are thousands of resources out there to help you out (this site is a great example). If you have a linux problem you can generally be assured if you contact a mail list describing your issue you will get plenty of responses, usually within a few hours. And if there is a bug in your software you can safely be assured a fix will appear within the week.
Compare that to commercial OS/software vendors, where if you aren't paying for support you are on your own...

Again, horses for courses. If whatever you are using gets the job done and you are happy with it, stay with it.
 
Old 05-12-2003, 07:12 AM   #49
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OMG SIGH

i have had mandrake 9.0 dual booting for over a month now
i still cant get my optical mouse to work
i still cant get my 7.1 fortissimo sound to work
i still cant even get internet acess shared from my dads computer...........


all of which work fine with xp......i agree how can fundamental things like these not work straight out of the box, its rediculous to say the least

and yes i would have thrown the towel in a long time ago if i werent studying linux at the moment..........if anyone can help with these 3 problems i would appreciate it
 
Old 05-12-2003, 07:17 AM   #50
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and i dont mind searching the forums for help, but not when i have to reboot into windows to use the freakin internet......


i have a realtek rtl8139c - in the gui setup it says static/up/ and some other things but the ip is blank.....nothing , althought it has been setup as a static address in other places

do i need new drivers for the card. OMG HELP PLEASE IM GONNA PUT A SLEDGE HAMMER INTO MY BOX
 
Old 05-12-2003, 07:19 AM   #51
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there is nothing wrong with the hardware, as it all works when booted into xp
 
Old 05-12-2003, 07:22 AM   #52
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did you download mandy from the internet for free? if not - if you purchased it from linux-mandrake (the publicly traded company) then there is probably help available from the company.

microsoft has +/- $45 billion dollars cash in the bank. they spend billions on research and development. the have been "innovating" since 1984. their software SHOULD work lickidisplit.

you can't really complain about having spent a month trying to configure linux in your situation if you obtained it without a purchase.
 
Old 05-12-2003, 11:02 AM   #53
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Burning CDs, add hdx=ide-scsi to your lilo.conf, re-run lilo and reboot. Then use something like Eroaster. Most newer distros you won't need to fiddle with your lilo.conf file - it does it for you.

And if you follow the Redhat default install and install with Grub instead of LILO?

I have actually posted a separate thread for this question but Redhat can be really annoying with their defaults - I can't change this easily now as it is already a working server.

Hey Ho!

Joy
 
Old 05-12-2003, 08:31 PM   #54
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no i got it with a magazine , the whole lot though, like 4 cd's

i need help setting up internet sharing from an xp box someone help plz, step by step. i have read lots of topics on this but still cannot get it to work.
 
Old 05-13-2003, 05:39 AM   #55
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Sorry, but Flash is not hard. ALL Linux browsers will pick up Netscape plugins, it's the de facto standard, and Flash 6 comes with a script that will install itself for you. You download the tarball, extract it and run the script. Restart your browser of choice, and there it is. I did this in about 20 seconds only yesterday.
 
Old 05-13-2003, 03:01 PM   #56
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Regarding an older post to this thread...sorry and off topic sorta.. what was the topic again??

Quote:
Originally posted by jdc2048
I think this comes down to a left-side/right-side of the brain thing IMHO....


People that are analytical in nature, that is to say, people who aren't just happy accepting that "It Works", use one side of their brain. On the other hand, there are those who just don't care "how it works", they just wan't it to work. These people use the other half of their brain.

I thought we could tear that section of our psychology books out and throw them away??
 
Old 05-13-2003, 05:49 PM   #57
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Well, to each his own.
The way i see it, what fun is it having no problems I have a lot of fun fixing problems i have, and learn a whole lot in the process. I currently have an 8 page post going just trying to fix my sound (and we havnt been sucessful yet) but hey, im not going to just quit and give up. Linux is different than Windows...try not to compare them. Just use each for what it is.
 
Old 05-14-2003, 09:20 AM   #58
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dodj
no i got it with a magazine , the whole lot though, like 4 cd's

i need help setting up internet sharing from an xp box someone help plz, step by step. i have read lots of topics on this but still cannot get it to work.
Hey Dodj,

Why don't you download and use 602Pro LAN Suite for Windows. Its a great Proxy server, supports all protocols, is easy to set up, and best of all, its free to use for upto 5 users. You have to give your e-mail on the site to get a free registration, http://www.602pro.com.

Give it a try

Bye
Arun
 
Old 05-14-2003, 09:43 AM   #59
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http://www.wingate.com/
 
Old 05-14-2003, 10:36 PM   #60
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i dont think it is a windows problem
when i go into mankrake control center and internet connections..........it says the connection is up but the ip field is blank. even tho it says it is set to 192.168.0.3 in other files

is it a problem with my network card driver, and if so how do i get a latest driver , and how do i install it.......realtek rtl8139c


thanks for your help, i really want to get the net working on linux.
 
  


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