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Old 11-23-2002, 01:37 PM   #31
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Its interesting reading about all these people that have had problems. I had some to begin with, due more tomy stupidity than anything else. But I have to say Ilike the challenge, and I am currentlyusing mandy 9 and its a great outof the box workstation. its stable enough to work and let me fiddle at the same time.
I like linux....
 
Old 11-23-2002, 04:24 PM   #32
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that's a good attitude to have when it comes to linux.

it's been years since I've last used mandrake but even then I knew it was a distro that was going places.

a few weeks ago i downloaded redhat8 to see what all the blue curve talk was about. it's a wonderful flavor also - easy to use. amazing how similar they got kde and gnome - in looks. *i prefer blackbox*
 
Old 11-23-2002, 11:04 PM   #33
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If you prefer to use Windows, that's fine. That's your choice. But to your point about finding something that's similar to your Rio 500 that works on linux -my Archos Jukebox 20 Recorder (that's 20 gigabyte) works fine under linux if you include the drivers in the install (the drivers come with linux), it works fine -you just have to mount the drive. Personally, I hate Windows. I tried using IE the other day on my father's computer. It froze 3 times in a row. Ctrl +Alt+Delete - "this program is not responding" I almost completely forgot that phrase. And that was on XP. My computer has never froze under linux.
 
Old 11-23-2002, 11:26 PM   #34
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Quote:
Originally posted by neo77777
Was I glitching or it was a dream, while installing RH7.3 there was a package something-rio500, the same was on Mandrake CD, tne same is http://freshmeat.net/projects/rio500/?topic_id=113 if I need it for Slackware, you name it. Anyway I am going back to windows.
Hey neo, if you take a look at the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules file in Slackware 8.1, you'll find a nice little module you can uncomment called rio500 under the USB Support.
 
Old 11-23-2002, 11:46 PM   #35
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Well, today I just installed Mandrake 9.0 PowerPack. After the install was done, and I booted into mandrake 9.0 for the first time, guess what...?

NO MOUSE

I have a godd*mn 2-button Microsoft wheel mouse just like MILLIONS of other people. Seems its just too much for mdk 9.0.
I had to reboot, and at LILO I selected Failsafe, got to command line - su to root, run mousedrake and tried a couple of "non-wheel" mice, only one that seems to work is the PS2 Microsoft Explorer Mouse. So thats fixed.

Oh yeah - I have no sound either. Hmmmm.... let's see what I have: S-B Live sound card with speakers plugged in to it. Seems like that is just too tough for mdk 9.0 also.

I support linux, and I absolutely HATE M$ being shoved done my throat, but JESUS CHRIST - who wants a brand new OS that doen't even handle a mouse right, or sound...

My sound should have worked after the initial install (and the mouse should have worked). Who wants to screw around with crap that should already work???!!!

I already fixed the mouse, and I'll figure out the no-sound problem, so I'm not asking for any help here, its just a rant.

thanks for listening
 
Old 11-24-2002, 12:34 AM   #36
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I read that last line, I know it's just a rant, but here's just a tip: Sometimes Distros will have sound muted by default, so check that first.

Cool
 
Old 11-24-2002, 12:57 AM   #37
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thanks, but doesn't seem to be the trouble.

I can't even play an audio CD:

CDROM read or access error (or no audio disc in drive).

Still have no sound. I'm not enuf of a linux geek to screw around with stuff to figure it out.

I'm still pissed at having to screw with this little crap that should work with ANY OS...!

Probably 50 million people use S-B sound cards, but after installing mandrake 9.0 does your S-B sound work? NOPE.
Can you play an audio CD in your CD drive? NOPE. Does your 2-button wheel mouse work? NOPE.

No telling what else doesn't work... I just installed it a couple of hours ago. Nothing will probably work. At least my internet connection works.. (I'm here aren't I?)
 
Old 11-24-2002, 06:53 PM   #38
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kinda off topic but... big companies ARE publishing GNU/Linux drivers... er Linux drivers would be technically correct...


Such as ATI
Sharp has a PDA out that runs GNU/Linux (SL-5500)
HP made a "entertainment device" which runs off of GNU/Linux


yadda yadda yadda....

I bet you own a Linux applience/device or atleast use one.. or have used one at some point.

It's a stable, secure, fast and fun OS, not to mention the community that goes along with it.

You probably had a bad expirience due to crappy hardware... hardware will ruin it for ya and research is vital. Sure you might spend a little more time configin' your GNU/Linux machine but atleast it wont BSOD or 'break' on you in a week or two.

I don't think your lazy tho... windows takes to much energy to run

and don't give me that "not standardized" junk... WHOS office suite didn't agree to comply with the XML standard? eh? eh? if anything GNU/Linux practices standardization more then MS and companies alike.. problem is.. the "standard" isn't advertised as much cause standardized systems/operations = less profit for them


kthxbye.
 
Old 11-24-2002, 07:04 PM   #39
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Quote:
Originally posted by pekuekfir
thanks, but doesn't seem to be the trouble.

I can't even play an audio CD:

CDROM read or access error (or no audio disc in drive).

Still have no sound. I'm not enuf of a linux geek to screw around with stuff to figure it out.

I'm still pissed at having to screw with this little crap that should work with ANY OS...!

Probably 50 million people use S-B sound cards, but after installing mandrake 9.0 does your S-B sound work? NOPE.
Can you play an audio CD in your CD drive? NOPE. Does your 2-button wheel mouse work? NOPE.

No telling what else doesn't work... I just installed it a couple of hours ago. Nothing will probably work. At least my internet connection works.. (I'm here aren't I?)
Actually for me it's yep yep and yep.

After installing Mandy 9 (base install) my SB Live! 5.1 worked, my USB Logitech iFeel mouse worked, and I can play CD's in my drive.

No configuring, has nothing to do with my linux knowledge, it was all working out of the box.

I know bad experiences happen all the time, it just REALLY sucks when it happens to you.

Cool
 
Old 11-24-2002, 08:15 PM   #40
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I actually installed mandrake 9.0 as the "Upgrade" option. I already had a mandrake 8.1 installation that was working good (ie: a year ago I went thru the "get your nvidia 3d drivers fixed" and "get your sound working" and all that). My 8.1 install had good sound. On the exact same machine I did a Mandrake 9.0 Upgrade install last night and now no sound.

Well, turns out my nvidia 3d still works now after 9.0 (Tuxracer plays & looks good). But no sound. .

When I fixed this little crap a year ago with 8.1, I should have wrote down everything I did. Hell, I can't remember now. I thought by 9.0, things like mice, and sound would work. I don't have anything weird, I just have standard stuff.

I am definately Pro-linux, and anti-M$, but you have to admit, this little crap turns alot of people off (possible new converts) and they just go back to M$ land.
 
Old 11-24-2002, 08:20 PM   #41
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PS: the "pekuekfir" posts above were under my "old" username from last year. I accidentally recently did a few posts under that name. I'm really "snafu". I suppose I still had "pekuekfir" cookies in my konq browser from last year.
 
Old 11-24-2002, 08:43 PM   #42
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Yes, yes I do. But most of the time, I find it's rather any reason that turns them back, they WANT a reason most of the time. IF someone wants to really give linux a try, then small obstacles are simply that, small. As long as there are places like this to come and ask questions though, the user who is really wanting something other than MS, will have a place to go. If I have a problem in linux, I know that someone on here can *usually* walk me through it. And it usually ends up working out just fine. If I had a problem with something in winbloze though, I'd be up a creek without a paddle.

The little crap that turns certain people off, is the exact same crap that turned me on. Obviously mice work, but how? Oh, I know, I'll search the forum and see. BAM, Oh, I need to either configure gpm or reconfig my XF86Config file. How? Oh, a search revealed that as well. How nice it is to have documentation.

If you can't click your way through it in winbloze with the proprietary drivers, then you are usually pretty screwed in winbloze though, what documentation, or what config file can you edit? Not many people know, and most of the time it doesn't exist.

Anyway I really think most of this has been said in the Anti-MS threads floating around, so I will just leave it at that.

If you do have a question on your sound though, go ahead and post it in another thread, be glad to help you with it.

Cool
 
Old 11-24-2002, 08:56 PM   #43
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ok, MasterC.

However, I can't end this thread without an apology to Mandrake.
I booted into winblows a little while ago, and.... no sound !!!

My first thought... "damn, I'm gonna be embarrased on linuxquestions..."

I investigated and... speakers plugged in wrong sound card hole. (I've been screwing with my hardware lately - wasn't paying attention when I plugged everything back in).

Anyway, sound works in winblows AND mandrake linux. So this is my official apology to mandrake. I'm not apologizing for my "mouse" rant - that really did not work - but I fixed it - so OK !!

I love linux !!!!
 
Old 11-24-2002, 08:59 PM   #44
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Been there dude, definitely been there. I usually start, and end with a bunch of That's the, "damn I really should have checked that first" smiley

The mouse problem is probably just because of the different XF86Config files, or maybe even the introduction to DevFS. Lots of new things with 9.0.

Go Mandy!

Cool
 
Old 11-26-2002, 12:17 AM   #45
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All OS's have problems the diffrence is Linux has fixable problems...
 
  


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