LinuxQuestions.org
Support LQ: Use code LQ3 and save $3 on Domain Registration
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 08-02-2006, 12:03 AM   #1
tsunami_imcool
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 80

Rep: Reputation: 15
amd64 help


howdy, i just got an athlon 64 3500+ and i cant seem to get any 64 bit operating systems to get on it. i've tried debian, but the first cd i used was bogus, and that was after i tried to use the business cd and those ftp sites to download the base system and such are pretty bogus, and i've also tried suse 10.1 with a dvd, and when i put that in the machine, all the packages couldnt be found, so pretty useless. so is there anyone out there that has advice on how to get any linux os on my machine? is it even real to have a 64 bit os? or just a myth?
 
Old 08-02-2006, 12:29 AM   #2
billymayday
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Distribution: Fedora, CentOS, OpenSuse, Slack, Gentoo, Debian, Arch, PCBSD
Posts: 6,678

Rep: Reputation: 122Reputation: 122
I run Fedora Core 5 64 bit on and AMD 3200+ with no problems at all. Have a look at

www.fedora.redhat.com
 
Old 08-02-2006, 12:32 AM   #3
tsunami_imcool
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 80

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
just my luck, they are doing site maintenance at the exact moment
 
Old 08-02-2006, 12:46 AM   #4
tsunami_imcool
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 80

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
okey, i think i'm figuring it out. i downloaded the debian-netinstallion disk. and (correct me if i'm wrong) that seems to have the base install on the disc. and my network card seems to work with dhcp one time, but not the next. so i needed to get through the base install and just set the network up manually, (which didnt work with the internet connection) and then set the network interface for dhcp right when its saying "thanks for choosing debian" or something the first time you boot when you install debian, by alt-f2 into a different console, and then it would work for the rest of the install, like for the desktop envirnment, which i'm doin at this moment that seems to be working.............my network card that seems faulty or something is an SiS900 or something, its built into my motherboard.
 
Old 08-02-2006, 01:04 AM   #5
HappyTux
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Distribution: Debian AMD64
Posts: 3,515

Rep: Reputation: 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsunami_imcool
okey, i think i'm figuring it out. i downloaded the debian-netinstallion disk. and (correct me if i'm wrong) that seems to have the base install on the disc. and my network card seems to work with dhcp one time, but not the next. so i needed to get through the base install and just set the network up manually, (which didnt work with the internet connection) and then set the network interface for dhcp right when its saying "thanks for choosing debian" or something the first time you boot when you install debian, by alt-f2 into a different console, and then it would work for the rest of the install, like for the desktop envirnment, which i'm doin at this moment that seems to be working.............my network card that seems faulty or something is an SiS900 or something, its built into my motherboard.
Try the Sarge installer here it has a 2.6.16 kernel that hopefully has better support for your hardware BTW how about some details on the hardware in the machine if this does not work or even if you ask another question sometime it is always nice to include that.
 
Old 08-02-2006, 01:10 AM   #6
rickh
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: Albuquerque, NM USA
Distribution: Debian-Lenny/Sid 32/64 Desktop: Generic AMD64-EVGA 680i Laptop: Generic Intel SIS-AC97
Posts: 4,250

Rep: Reputation: 62
Quote:
Try the Sarge installer here
I make no pretense at being as knowledgeable as HappyTux, but my advice is that if you have the Etch installer working, stay with it. I don't know if the (so called) Sarge AMD64 uses Xfree86 or not, but you'll be better off with Xorg in the long run. Etch also has the 2.6.16 kernel, but I would recommend getting the 2.6.17-k8 from Sid as soon as possible. That's the kernel that will be included when Etch becomes stable, supposedly in a few months.
 
Old 08-02-2006, 01:49 AM   #7
jschiwal
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Fargo, ND
Distribution: SuSE AMD64
Posts: 15,733

Rep: Reputation: 670Reputation: 670Reputation: 670Reputation: 670Reputation: 670Reputation: 670
I wonder if your SuSE dvd disk was faulty. I downloaded the dvd disk OpenSuSE 10.1 and installed it on my HP ZV5000 laptop.
 
Old 08-02-2006, 02:16 AM   #8
billymayday
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Distribution: Fedora, CentOS, OpenSuse, Slack, Gentoo, Debian, Arch, PCBSD
Posts: 6,678

Rep: Reputation: 122Reputation: 122
Fedora site is back up
 
Old 08-03-2006, 01:30 AM   #9
tsunami_imcool
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 80

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
is there a debian that isn't a pure 64 bit version? or whats deal with that?

Last edited by tsunami_imcool; 08-03-2006 at 01:32 AM.
 
Old 08-03-2006, 01:44 AM   #10
rickh
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: Albuquerque, NM USA
Distribution: Debian-Lenny/Sid 32/64 Desktop: Generic AMD64-EVGA 680i Laptop: Generic Intel SIS-AC97
Posts: 4,250

Rep: Reputation: 62
If you get it from Debian, it's pure. I recommend Etch. It's available here. The beta AMD64 is broken, but you can get the daily run. Since they're offering it, I assume it's good. No guarantees.
 
Old 08-03-2006, 01:55 AM   #11
DeusExLinux
Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: Tampa, Fl
Distribution: Arch
Posts: 648

Rep: Reputation: 30
If you can't get any of those to run, there's always Arch64 too, I never had luck with it on my lappy, but I really didn't try too hard. Couldn't get any 64bit monster working, actually. I blame ATI (why? because it's easy.. )

http://arch64.org/
 
Old 08-03-2006, 03:50 AM   #12
cs-cam
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: Australia
Distribution: Gentoo
Posts: 3,544
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 57
Arch64 is basically a one man show so don't expect it to be super awesome unless Andy gets a few more people on board with the time to help. There are 64bit distros all over but I'm sticking with 32bit for the moment. Everything just works.
 
Old 08-03-2006, 04:07 AM   #13
ethics
Senior Member
 
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: London
Distribution: Arch - Latest
Posts: 1,522

Rep: Reputation: 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by cs-cam
Arch64 is basically a one man show so don't expect it to be super awesome unless Andy gets a few more people on board with the time to help. There are 64bit distros all over but I'm sticking with 32bit for the moment. Everything just works.
Agree with the above, do you really need 64 bit or you want it cause you got a new shiny toy?

Since arch has been mentioned, the 32 bit is a great distro :P
 
Old 08-03-2006, 04:44 AM   #14
oskar
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Austria
Distribution: Ubuntu 12.10
Posts: 1,142

Rep: Reputation: 49
Agree too.

I tried 64 bit a couple of times over the last year, it never seemed to work. Strange crashes, never got flash to work (chroot my ass). And absolutely no noticeable performence boost.

As soon as it works, I'll use it too. But I recommend waiting.
On the other hand - the more people use it, the sooner it will be good.
 
Old 08-04-2006, 12:57 AM   #15
tsunami_imcool
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 80

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
well will the 32 bit stuff run just as fast as the 64 bit on linux?

and i did get debian workin just fine

Last edited by tsunami_imcool; 08-04-2006 at 12:59 AM.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Difference between amd64 generic and amd64 k8? halfpower Linux - General 6 09-07-2006 06:28 PM
And for amd64 Gnux Slackware 6 06-13-2006 07:27 AM
Amd64? TheGimp Slackware 3 12-20-2005 03:29 PM
what's the best distro for AMD64? sheepdogj15 Linux - Distributions 24 03-23-2005 04:30 AM
AMD64 and 9.1? snocked Slackware 11 04-24-2004 07:48 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration