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Old 06-06-2009, 02:08 AM   #1
jdddiah
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als4000 card recognized in ubuntu but not in gOS


I am one lazy, MS-spoiled, recovering digiphile...
I recently installed Ubuntu on an old handmedown machine I've Frankied over the years and then totally creamed it trying to install Clam AV over the newer version already included (I did not know).
So I then got turned on to gOS which is similar yet more suited to my and my wife's needs yet strangely this occurred:
Ubuntu recognized my ALS4000 sound card immediately but would not play Pandora.com.
gOS does not recognize my ALS4000 sound card yet wants very badly to play Pandora.com.
Help?
Remember I am not completely comp-illiterate yet have been out of the loop for well over a decade.
Be gentle.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 12:31 PM   #2
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I'm lost here. pandora.com is only available to computers in the USA so I can't have a look at it. I don't understand what you are trying to tell us. What does "would not play Pandora.com" mean? and what does: "wants very badly to play Pandora.com" mean? More details might help you get sensible answers.
cheers,
jdk
 
Old 06-07-2009, 09:37 PM   #3
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So sorry. I forgot that I was addressing an audience composed of people not inherently ignorant or lazy (no sarcasm here). Being from the US I forget that the rest of the world is actually ahead of us and so must my inquiries be if I am to gain anything (again, seriously, no sarcasm)...

When I say Ubuntu recognizes my als4000 card and yet refuses to play, I mean after I load it onto my P4 - 2.5G, .5Gsdram, 250G HD machine (from early'02 originally designed for windows XP), it allows me to go into "sound" options in the GUI under the "System Preferences/ Preferences" menu and choose, "als400 OSS" and then press "test" and then suddenly my sound card emits a noise and then works properly after that with every noise emitting web site or program I run - except for Pandora.com. When I try to log on to my wife's account it says "Plug-ins needed" and then presents exactly three of them to me, as follow:

Swfdec SWF player - swfdec.freedesktop.org
Adobe Flash Player (installer) - www.adobe.com
Gnash SWF Player - www.gnu.org/woftware/gnash

So I click on them all and install them and restart in order (each one gets a restart between installs) and then try again to open Pandora to no avail. So after some research I discovered the Adobe one doesn't really install until after a little more work but then I get it in there and yet Pandora still doesn't work.
And then I read about lines I'm supposed to copy into my kernel configuration (which I have no desire to even come close to until I have studied WAY more!) because supposedly in Ubuntu the problem is with my Flash drivers and not my sound card and some other files that I have no idea what in the hell they're referring to (although soon I will) - so I gave up and install gOS.....

And then I get a working web page with Pandora.com but no sound. It loads the page where Ubuntu stopped but doesn't have any sound. Apparently gOS got the right Flash drivers but no als4000 drivers... So I go into my "System Preferences/ Preferences" menu and choose, "Sound" - but NO option for als4000 OSS! So I try to download some kind of file which I am supposed to access from my terminal and activate yet can't find (in fact I'm not sure how to change any configuration file yet) and so end up with the various "Flash" portions of my web pages working but in the end I still get no Flash and no sound...

I know... Fucking Americans... Go ahead and laugh... I deserve it. I'm in over my head but I can't stand MS anymore. I live in freakin Seattle for cryin out loud!
I used to build these things for people, but I never got into the code side of things any further than I had to to set them up. Please cut me some slack. Where should I begin?

Thanks,
David
 
Old 06-07-2009, 09:39 PM   #4
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BTW Pandora is an internet radio site that allows you to choose multiple stations and rate each station and song and then gradually forms a profile about you and your musical tastes until more and more songs are relevant and you are clicking the "down thumb" less and less....

sorry.

David
 
Old 06-08-2009, 01:35 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by jdddiah View Post
When I try to log on to my wife's account it says "Plug-ins needed" and then presents exactly three of them to me, as follow:

Swfdec SWF player - swfdec.freedesktop.org
Adobe Flash Player (installer) - www.adobe.com
Gnash SWF Player - www.gnu.org/woftware/gnash

So I click on them all...
AAaarrgghh! No you don't install them all! Just pick one (I'd pick the Adobe which seems to work best). So you need to remove 2 of them and just leave one in place.
Next go to a "neutral" site that uses the flash plugin. youtube is a good choice because we can all access it and see what problems (if any) you're having. If all is well, then fine. If not try to note exactly what you did and what problematic response resulted from your action and we'll try to get you up and running.

I don't know where you're getting the idea of having to do anything to your kernel to install a flash plugin. That's just wrong. Don't mess with your kernel or you'll live to regret it

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and then gradually forms a profile about you and your musical tastes
An excellent reason never to visit the site.

cheers,
jdk

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Old 06-09-2009, 09:42 PM   #6
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Getting closer. Went to youtube and got wonderful video (faster than when I had MS win2kpro) yet still no sound. Messed with all the variables in my sound options but to no avail. When I hit the sound test button after setting playback to ALS4000 OSS I get a tone. All the volumes are up and there is definitely nothing muted.
But progress has been made!
Any ideas for what's next? I have another friend trying to help who so far has agreed with everything you've said and is helping me learn how to search for and sort through useful information but nothing yet.
What do you think?

Thanks for your help so far,
David
 
Old 06-10-2009, 12:44 AM   #7
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Ooh ooh ooh....
So I got a brain fart and decided to unplug my speakers from the PCI sound card and plug them directly into the on board sound slot on my motherboard... Then I played around with my sound preference settings and found the auto-detect to work.
So then I went to you-tube and it worked a little until ads popped up and the same with pandora radio... they start to play until the ads start loading and then nothing.
However, Live365 (another internet radio station my wife likes for her and our newborn son to listen to while they play) plays continuously despite having tons of ads all over the place...
What gives? What am I missing?

David
 
Old 06-10-2009, 03:15 AM   #8
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To get your sound sorted you need to load the correct driver for your ALS4000. I asume you're using ALSA so you should use the snd_hda_intel module. To load it, type this command at a terminal
Code:
sudo modprobe -v snd_hda_intel
If you don't see any error messages, then try this command
Code:
lsmod | grep snd
and look to see if snd_hda_intel appears on the list. You can then try your youtube website and see if you hear some sound. You should use a mixer (the gnome or kde ones are fine) to make sure your sound is not muted and the PCM setting is not at zero.
cheers,
jdk
 
Old 06-10-2009, 03:18 AM   #9
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Whoops, I see you have everything working now. Well done! For reasons I explained earlier I can't help you because only people located in the USA can get pandora radio. I don't know what's so special out it. There are loads of other websites that give you loads of music and are limited to people from one country.
Ciao,
jdk
 
Old 06-11-2009, 04:40 AM   #10
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You know I e-mailed the website that kept coming up every time the ads would load and they sent me a curt message saying they didn't service Pandora....
Oh well.
What are these other sites you mention?
I only ask because my wife loves to spend time multi-tasking between baby and computer and other stuff while I'm away and since we get crappy reception where we're living it's best to get our music over the web... so...
Thanks for all the help so far and I hope we're nearing the end of this one for all who may peer in later... Not because I object to your company Mr. K...
Just because it would mean my problems are solved.
For the moment...:|
Bwa bwa bwa....
 
Old 06-11-2009, 11:40 PM   #11
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Just google something like internet radio music and you'll get loads of hits. Depends what kind of music you want of course. For starters there's this one:
http://new.music.yahoo.com/
this one:
http://www.radiotower.com/
this one:
http://www.onlineradiostations.com/

I'm not recommending these mind. I just did a google search and found them. As I said, there are a zillion others. Just look for them. Only you know what kind of music you or your wife or baby like to listen to.
Happy listening,
jdk
 
  


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