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Old 11-09-2003, 03:13 PM   #1
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Already installed apps not loading after useing rpm installer for other apps


I've had this problem since I installed Mandrake 9.2, but I've worked around it till now.
Most recently I installed xcdraost and rute. Afterwards "home" icon on my desktop quit opening. (not a problem that I could tell, I just open konqueror and go "home"). Problem is "Mandrake Linux Documentation in English" has quit opening.

I've had the same problem with other apps, both on the "being installed" end and the "already installed but quit opening" end.

By not opening I mean the apps appear in the tray and spin for a period of time, depending on the app but then they disappear from the task bar without opening.

The system does not freeze or hang.

Logging in as root and trying to run these apps does not change the outcome.

Trying to open them from the command line does not seem to help either, thou I am not very proficient with the command line yet.

I also have the "disappearing menu" problem, in case it is related. However the "disappearing menus" haven't really bothered me to much.

Any Links or help understanding how to make apps start loading again and/or preventing the problem from recurring greatly appreciated.

Continued gratitude to all those who help us newbies.

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Old 11-09-2003, 04:04 PM   #2
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the disappearing menus can be sorted with the following command
update-menus -v
(no need to be root, close the terminal manually after the process stops)

apps that don't start?
which apps?
do you mean games you have installed?
or stuff that comes with mdk?
 
Old 11-09-2003, 04:41 PM   #3
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I am probably using the wrong terminology.
When I try to open" Mandrake Linux Documentation" useing the button that is in the K menu that pops up from the task bar the documentation does not open.

The documentation isnt an application I dont think. But it wont open. The icon for the documentation shows up in the task bar with a spinning hour glass. The hour glass spins for a while then the icon and hour glass dissapear.

In the past , after useing RPM to install some other app (I think it was xawtv) Nautilus stopped opening. It (nautilus) would behave as stated above with the Mandrake Documentation

I dont know if nautilus is an application or what to call it

Thanks for your help

I'll try to explain more or differently if needed
 
Old 11-09-2003, 04:50 PM   #4
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when you say you used RPM to install apps, what exactly did you do? Did you use mandrake's tool in mandrake control center and installed stuff from the CDs; or did you download rpms? If you downloaded, did you make sure you got the ones fro mdk9.2 (as opposed to mdk9.1. or cooker, or redhat or whatever)?
 
Old 11-09-2003, 05:04 PM   #5
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I used mandrae control center and apps that came on the cds
 
Old 11-09-2003, 10:55 PM   #6
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uuuhhuuu. That doesn't sound good. I presume you weren't told that installing this and that will require getting rid of other things. You say you've tried opening the apps from the command line. Do you get any error messages? Nautilus should be the command
nautilus
Usually, the commands are pretty similar to the names of the programs. You can check the command when you open the menu editor (right click on the K icon) and look at the 'execute' entry for a menu item.
 
Old 11-10-2003, 05:20 AM   #7
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Extreme Thanks, quatsh and salparadise

When I try to open nautilus from a command line, it returns "Segmentation fault"
I didnt see that before as it takes about a minute and I had moved on by then.

I have read a ton of stuff and will continue but I missed anything about not being able to have every thing installed all at the same time.

I am using the download edition.

Continued gratitude to all those who help us newbies.

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Old 11-11-2003, 07:33 AM   #8
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bump

quote:
" That doesn't sound good. I presume you weren't told that installing this and that will require getting rid of other things."

I went back and re-read installation documentation that came on cd with mandrake and have not yet found reference to above quote.
Someone please elaborate. Is it possibly conflicts with apps or resources or a matter of disk space or other?

Was this bump inappropriate? I very much want to be a responsible user of this forum.

Continued thanks to all those who help us newbies.

Last edited by toastermaker; 11-11-2003 at 07:34 AM.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 09:32 AM   #9
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You waited for a day so it's probably ok to bump judging from what others do.

sometimes, things do conflict but if that happens, you will be (should be at least) told at the time you try to install the things.

You could try uninstalling the apps that no longer start and then installing them again. BTW, do the new apps that you installed start at least?
 
Old 11-11-2003, 10:52 AM   #10
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Thanks quatsch
Yes , the installing apps have always started and ran.
Generically or specifically speaking what is the "segmentation fault"
I will try un- and re- installing apps that are acting up.

Continued gratitude to all those who help us newbies
 
Old 11-17-2003, 10:37 AM   #11
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i have ready install yahoo messenger, but i have massage "segmentation fault"

anyone help to solving my problem

thank's very much ( i am use linux Red Hat 9.0 )
 
Old 11-17-2003, 11:25 AM   #12
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Beffe,
At the top of a main forum page is a "search all forums" box.
Enter "segmentation fault" and you will get more hits than you can shake a stick at.

Continued gratitude to all those who help us newbies.
 
  


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