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Old 04-15-2009, 06:03 PM   #1
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Advice on whether to clone/re-partition/re-install OR wipe disk/re-partition/use VM


To clarify-here is my present scheme-

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Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x8f800200

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1               1        3533    28378791   83  Linux
/dev/sda2   *        3534        5670    17165452+  83  Linux
/dev/sda3            5671       10979    42644542+  83  Linux
/dev/sda4           10980       19457    68099535    5  Extended
/dev/sda5           14931       19457    36363127+   b  W95 FAT32
/dev/sda6           10980       11690     5711044+  83  Linux
/dev/sda7           11691       12921     9887976   83  Linux
/dev/sda8           12922       14601    13494568+  83  Linux
/dev/sda9           14602       14930     2642661   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order
Notice too that the FAT32 partition is for storage-
sda1 Slack12.2
sda2 Ubuntu SE
sda3 SuperUbuntu
sda4 EXTENDED
sda5 FAT32
sda6 EXT2 area for DSL/Feather remastering
sda7 Slack-lite 12.2
sda8 Debian Lenny
sda9 swap

OK- Basically my question is-
Should I wipe the Disk(160GB), and re-install the Distro's I want.
Or Should make just maybe 5 partitions
sda1- Slack
sda2- Ubuntu
sda3- DSL-frugal
sda4- FAT32
sda5- swap
And then setup Vbox/Qemu VHD's and install whatever to them?

Problems-I think I broke Slack 12.2 on sda1 running as root and sloppily installing whatever-whether or not the install went right(non-slack packages)

SuperUbuntu is Buggy and never has recognized my USB and other partitions correctly.

Also an issue with SuperUbuntu, Ubuntu SE on sda2 often "freezes" and only can be fixed by killing the power(which is not good)
ctrl-alt-delete/alt-prtscrn-REISUB does not work...Gnome?

Debian's always telling me to add myself to the "subdoer's" list and when I do it still gives me issues-Gotta go...

Slack-Lite, my trimmed down version of Slack-works great but unfortunately is trapped in an Extended Partition-which will probably be destroyed via Gparted...

Both Slack's are the Most Stable OS I have ever used-but sda1 Slack is a mess and I have issues with a mysterious ailment both have concerning Vbox-when I start Vbox my whole screen goes black and when iot comes back in Vbox is only playing a small window...invoking Vbox through the term got "svgalib_helper module not working or loaded-something".

Anyway-So what should I do??
Can I clone the slack-lite on sda7 and where/how to do it?

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Old 04-15-2009, 06:54 PM   #2
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let me begin with I am no expert, but I have learned a few things along the way and I know a little about partitioning,

you say:
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OK- Basically my question is-
Should I wipe the Disk(160GB), and re-install the Distro's I want.
Or Should make just maybe 5 partitions
sda1- Slack
sda2- Ubuntu
sda3- DSL-frugal
sda4- FAT32
sda5- swap
And then setup Vbox/Qemu VHD's and install whatever to them?
as far as I know you could not create a table like that. the easiest would be to create a maximum of 4 primary partitions, but you can also create more, however. if you want more than 4 then partition 4 is going to be extended (not primary) and in there you can create more partitions starting with partition number 5. although I can see that you have a swap partition in your existing table I am not certain if the swap partition can exist in an extended partition, as I remember some time ago that it gave me problems (forgot what) if it was not a primary partition. So when you see a partition in your file manager named 'sda5' for example you know it is the first partition in the extended partition 'sda4' which will remain absent in the file manager. sda4 appears in Gparted as extended.

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Also an issue with SuperUbuntu, Ubuntu SE on sda2 often "freezes" and only can be fixed by killing the power(which is not good)
ctrl-alt-delete/alt-prtscrn-REISUB does not work...Gnome?
it may be nothing but in the rare case that I need it I usually do 'alt-prtscrn-RSEIUB' (slight difference in the order) and that has worked every time so far. if you still have no luck then the only way would be to kill power, but do you do this by pressing and hold the 'power on' button for >4 seconds or do you pull the cord? the latter is certainly not recommended. personally, if I have too many issues with a particular distro, I stop using it and stick with the ones that work for me. too many of these glitches can cost you your hard drive in the long (read: short) run.

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Can I clone the slack-lite on sda7 and where/how to do it?
my experiences with going from one partition number to another have not been very successful with regards to cloning, but that is certainly to do with my lack of knowledge on the subject. I don't know whether it is just a matter of editing grub or lilo, or more. clones to similar partition numbers have been quiet good, although there is one issue that I am working on, but that may be of no importance to your particular case. I use clonezilla by the way:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-issue-715017/ this turns out to be a clone problem.
 
Old 04-15-2009, 07:16 PM   #3
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OK-sorry-I did know about the 4 primary partitions-just forgot
Anyway-The only distro I have ever used that didn't have quirky issues is Slackware-12.2
Ubuntu is unstable by nature-"Ubuntu is based on the unstable branch of Debian"
Accepted.

What about VM's should I just make a couple-3 partitions and install/make a few VHD's and install distro's like that?
I have 1GB RAM/2.4GHz AMD Athlon64 3300+ HP PC-which is healthier for my HD/PC?
Using a VM stresses the PC more or less than a reg install on a real HD?
 
Old 04-15-2009, 07:52 PM   #4
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I have no experience with VM's but from what I have read about it, they are a little slower than the real thing but you have good specs there so by all means go try it out
 
Old 04-15-2009, 08:14 PM   #5
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I would think those are bad specs-and I only have a SIS-760 IGC and my pC is circa 2003-pretty old huh?
Anyway-so what is the best free VM-Qemu/Vbox?
I want to be able to do "real" installs like a eal install-that's possible too right?
 
Old 04-15-2009, 10:33 PM   #6
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Again, I have no experience on the subject of VM but if I am ever going to give it a try I would use 'Virtual Box'. I remember reading about it in a computer magazine (which one?) and there are a few things you should somehow inform yourself about with regards to usability and ease. try googling for Virtual Box.

And likely somebody else on this site has better suggestions, is there a forum on this?

http://www.virtualbox.org/
 
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Just my 2 cents

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Can I clone the slack-lite on sda7 and where/how to do it?
Try ghost for linux
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ghost...ux-24383.shtml

I would suggest to use 1 distro you like, and install it to your HD.
For this use a separate partition for /home so you can reuse the data in case you need to reinstall.

Set this distribution up the way you like it, and make everything work.

Then use VirtualBox to experiment with other distributions.
You could create a separate partition to hold the different images.
Make a separate partition for DSL/Feather remastering.
in short

partition 1 your main distribution
partition 2 /home
partition 3 DSL/Feather remastering
partition 4 images and storage
partition 5 swap

And when you are at it, use an external HD to backup your system and important configuration files.
 
  


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