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Old 12-03-2006, 06:12 PM   #16
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I'm glad this post isn't dead yet. I did burn the CD using Nero - Make UDF/ISO CD. When I try to boot from the cd, regardless of which boot option I use, It appears to load the system. I get the LinuxOS loading screen which goes through the complete slide graphic then the monitor goes black and the cd drive quits spinning. I can't even use the front panel power off switch. I have to go to the back switch. This happens with even the bootsafe mode.
Any Ideas?
 
Old 12-03-2006, 06:18 PM   #17
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Doesn't sound like it's able to set up your video hardware correctly. May I ask what make model of laptop you're using? You might just try booting with a Knoppix CD to see if it works -- Knoppix has about the best hardware setup I've experienced.

Alternatively, perhaps you got a bad download. Did you check the MD5 sum of the ISO as suggested? Also, I tend to butn ISOs at no faster than 16x because I've run into problems otherwise (could just be my burner).
 
Old 12-03-2006, 06:39 PM   #18
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Thanks for you quick response.
My machine is a desktop I built from a bare bones system. The video hardware is on-board and is ATI Radeon xpress 200 series. It's an intel based 3.3 ghz with 1 gig ram and plenty of hdd. The monitor is KDS 17". I did the md5sum check and it said it was good to boot from.
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Old 12-03-2006, 06:43 PM   #19
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like the previous post were saying you must check the md5 sum of the iso,it took me a couple of burns to get pclinux os working,download the mini-me version,that way you can build up your system slowly.. you could also buy the latest edition of linux format it has mandriva 2007 on its dvd..

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Old 12-03-2006, 06:52 PM   #20
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As I said in the previous reply I did the MD5sum check and it said it was good to boot from. Todders, you say it took a couple of burns to get it to work. Was that even though you had good md5sum checks?
Thanks
George
 
Old 12-03-2006, 06:58 PM   #21
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SimplyMepis

The easiest step to troubleshoot this is not to keep doing the same thing and expect different results (classic definition of insanity (prior to QM)). Try burning the SimplyMepis CD and hope that your hardware is better supported.

I agree that attempting to burn the CD at a lower speed might help.

Last edited by ehawk; 12-03-2006 at 06:59 PM.
 
Old 12-03-2006, 07:29 PM   #22
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OK you convinced me. The latest Knoppix release is downloading as we speak. I'll burn it no faster than 16X. I'll re-burn pclinuxos later. I live in the middle of nowhere so I have to use a satellite ISP. I probably avg. 60KB/sec download so this will take awhile. I really appreciate all the advice and help. I understand it's worth it to convert just one more windows user. I'll burn the dvd overnight. I hope to be back on tomorrow evening.
Thanks again.
George

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Old 12-04-2006, 03:36 AM   #23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by todders
you could also buy the latest edition of linux format it has mandriva 2007 on its dvd..
From personal experience, I would strongly recommend against that. I've said in several posts, that Mandriva 07 was the worst version of Linux I've ever tried(and like a lot of folks, I've tried many)... Obviously others have had other experiences, but I've read of problems with this OS, hopefully they get fixed. Mandriva/PCLinuxOS used to be two of my favorite distros, now, they either slow my machine to a crawl(07), or major things like net access and sound were near impossible to get working(PCLinuxOS .93a)

This isn't a flame on Mandriva, it was one of the first distros I got to work, but I was so disappointed I paid for 07...

If all else fails, download Ubuntu and see if it detects your hardware better.

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Old 12-04-2006, 04:48 AM   #24
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Mandriva is o.k, but because it is becoming more propriarity it is getting Harder and Harder to find support you don't have to pay for. it is still IMO one of the better Distros, take a look at these if your intersted

Kubuntu
http://www.kubuntu.org/

Mandriva
http://frontal2.mandriva.com/en/downloads/mirrors

PCLinuxOS .92
http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/metalab/dist...glish/preview/
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/metalab/distr...glish/preview/

This is the distro I use and recommend, Why because it works right out of the box. No need to configure Everything, everything just works. It also comes as a 1 CD install that is a live CD that you can install later if you wish.

BeatrIX
http://www.watsky.net/download.html

Mephis
http://www.mepis.org/

if your still unsure of the Distro try these Distro Choosers: http://eedok.voidofmind.com/linux/chooser.html
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html

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Old 12-05-2006, 01:40 AM   #25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak
From personal experience, I would strongly recommend against that. I've said in several posts, that Mandriva 07 was the worst version of Linux I've ever tried(and like a lot of folks, I've tried many)... Obviously others have had other experiences, but I've read of problems with this OS, hopefully they get fixed. Mandriva/PCLinuxOS used to be two of my favorite distros, now, they either slow my machine to a crawl(07), or major things like net access and sound were near impossible to get working(PCLinuxOS .93a)

This isn't a flame on Mandriva, it was one of the first distros I got to work, but I was so disappointed I paid for 07...

If all else fails, download Ubuntu and see if it detects your hardware better.

IGF
i think it is always down to your personal taste and the installed hardware,i havent really had a problem with either mandriva 2007 or pclinuxsos... i was really just giving an easy option if all else fails on the burning of any downloaded iso`s..

thanks

Todders
 
Old 12-05-2006, 07:05 PM   #26
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Originally posted by bOuncer:
Why is that, laptops are pcs too and I've encountered more non-working desktop pcs than non-working laptops, and I've used many.
It just seems to be a hardware compatibility issue. Support for video cards, sound chipsets, modems (especially winmodems) network chipsets and wireless LAN devices all seem to lag behind that for desktop PCs. I grant you that a bit of research before buying can reward you with a fully compatible laptop, but I can't say I found getting Slackware working on an IBM Thinkpad as easy as on my desktop PC. Surely the fact that so many linux-on-laptop websites exist indicates that there is some difficulty here.

As for RH, I must bow to your experience as I haven't used it in a while. If you say it's easy then OK.
 
Old 12-07-2006, 02:55 PM   #27
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Thanks to all who've been responding. Here's my latest update. As stated earlier pclinux gave me a loading system screen then died. I downloaded the dvd iso for Knoppix. That showed me lots detection and loading stuff. It said it saw my processor and hard drive and dvd drives and usb port and firewire port. Actually I don't believe I have a firewire port. Then it began "Auto configuring hardware". An hour later it was still auto configuring hardware. I currently have Ubuntu downloading. I'll give it a try.
My desktop system configuration is:
Intel MOBO w/3.33 gig cpu.
W.D. hard drive. 80 gig.
lite-on dvd-rom cdrw
Nec dvd rw
Video is on-board ATI Radeon xpress 200 series. KDS monitor.
I do have wireless keyboard and mouse. Maybe they don't like that.

Anyway, any suggestions on getting a distro to boot will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
George
 
Old 12-07-2006, 03:13 PM   #28
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For what it's worth, Ubuntu 5.10 recognized all of my hardware "out of the box". This was on a laptop that included wireless networking.

On the other hand, it took a while to get everything configured correctly using Slackware. That said, I *MUCH* prefer Slackware over any other distro I've tried.
 
Old 12-07-2006, 04:33 PM   #29
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curleyg, your problem with Knoppix is pretty weird. It probably has something to do with trying to auto configure a non-existent firewire port. Apart from Debian, Knoppix is the only other distro I've tried that detected all my hardware "out of the box" as mvantuyl puts it. In fairness, I haven't tried Ubuntu so it may be worth a go but decide if you prefer the Gnome Desktop Environment (Ubuntu) or KDE (Kubuntu) before you start as you only get one or the other.
 
Old 12-07-2006, 06:12 PM   #30
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Mikieboy. As for your sig. my pref. is bourbon and coke. Same result. Back to business. I'm going to ignore the firewire thing for the moment. I have today googled my hardware. There does seem to be an issue with ATI Radeon xpress 200 series. I came across another forum that was working on the issue. However, they suggested downloading the latest driver from ATI. The problem there is they have separate drivers for Linux and Windows. The folks at this other forum were working on strictly Linux machines. I'm concerned that if I install the driver for Linux I'll lose video altogether. I have to be able to fall back on M$ since I can't get a Distro to boot. I also visited the hardware forum on this site and they were all talking about laptops. At this point any advice about anything will be appreciated. I believe right now I could solve global warming (if it really needs to be solved) before I can get a distro to boot.
 
  


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