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Old 05-28-2010, 11:22 AM   #1
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Adding programs that were not preinstalled


Hi

I have always had to use windows etc, of course this means I have become accustomed to the way the programs are automatically installed etc... so my question is:

Once I have found appropriate software which I would like to add to my computer, (which is Linux Compatible)... what are the steps, in the simplest terms to start using it?

To confirm, I have got to the stage where the program is on the computer but as no "window" pops up... I am fairly lost to get it from the completed downloads to actually start using it... is it an option like extract? Could you give me the basic steps.

Many thanks

Paul
 
Old 05-28-2010, 11:48 AM   #2
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I see that you're using Fedora. Fedora has a huge repository of software at your fingertips, all available via a package management scheme called rpm (Redhat Package Management). My suggestion is, if you've found something you want to install online, check for its availability through your system's package manager, which I think is still yum in Fedora. See this page link
 
Old 05-28-2010, 12:38 PM   #3
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Actually I need to have a program that is compatible with Microsoft Excel, as the files are created using this system... I looked at open office... which was pre installed but their package is not compatible. I don't want to lose Linux off this computer because I am tired of fighting with viruses... but I need a solution for this issue
 
Old 05-28-2010, 12:47 PM   #4
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Excel should be compatible with OpenOffices calc section:

http://www.openoffice.org/product/calc.html

Whenever you post a question it is a VERY good idea to post your distro, arch, and version. Something along the lines of Fedora 13-64bit.
 
Old 05-28-2010, 01:03 PM   #5
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The problem i have is that the software was pre-installed. So I didn't get the chance to understand how to do it myself, nor who the manager is etc. I have Open Office on the computer... so I need to download the new 3.2 edition... which brings me back to my original problem... when I get the box that comes up to confirm that the download is complete, HOW do I get it to run?

Cheers, I am on the newbies forum, which is a very good definition of my knowledge of computing!

Paul
 
Old 05-28-2010, 01:19 PM   #6
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Looks like I have found the answer on the forum... thanks for those who replied!
 
Old 05-28-2010, 01:58 PM   #7
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OK apparently not.... I still need help with upgrading the open office that I have, to 3.2
I was trying to do it with the instructions for skype, but I still need to know which is the action that I have to do after the download has been completed.

My computer is an AA1 Acer with Linpus... I have the 2.3 and need to update to the 3.2.

Last edited by juanpabloangel; 05-28-2010 at 02:19 PM. Reason: more info
 
Old 05-29-2010, 07:47 AM   #8
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Linpus is based on Fedora, so it uses RPM. Current version of OOo should be 3.2 (as you mention, I think), and it'd be best if you could find out how to use the package manager on your system to upgrade it. Failing that, you could download OOo 3.2 from the OOo site, and install it using the RPM instructions in their installation guide. If going down this route, it is probably best to remove the previous version from your system (using the package manager), and note that there won't be automatic updates to your new OOo.

I wish I used Linpus myself so I knew better how it deals with package management, but I don't. It might be best to wait for someone to turn up who does.
 
Old 05-31-2010, 12:29 PM   #9
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Would it be easier/better to download the new version of Linpus Lite to my computer, which appears to have the latest versions... would it delete all the files, as I have no way of backing them up, whilst my windows based HP is not working due to viruses.
 
Old 05-31-2010, 01:34 PM   #10
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If you are going to do a reinstall I would highly recommend not using Linpus. Go with any of the more mainstream distros (at least until you get your Linux sea legs). Fedora used to be my favorite as it has a huge repository of packages to choose from but they went to supporting any one version for only 13 months. This means you have to do a fresh install once every 13 months. Now I run Centos which will have support for five more years(at least) before I have to switch versions. Centos is (essentially) the free version of RHEL(Red Hat Enterprise Linux). Centos/RHEL value stability above all else. That is a double edged sword. It means that (compared to most other distros) you will have very few crashes, but it also means that you will never have the latest greatest of anything. For example the most current version of FF on Centos 5.5 is 3.0.19. It is on OOfice 3.1.1. You can also look at any of other the top rated distros, ubuntu is certainly worth a look.

Regardless of what distro you install; if you put your /home on its own partition you will not lose your files when you upgrade/switch distros, at least not the files in your home directory.

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Old 05-31-2010, 01:59 PM   #11
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Ok thanks for the info... I will look to see if there is any further info on the forum regarding /home to save my files before I change Disto.
 
Old 05-31-2010, 02:50 PM   #12
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Ok thanks for the info... I will look to see if there is any further info on the forum regarding /home to save my files before I change Disto.
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages..../backuppc.8.gz has a backup utility that may be useful to you.

If viruses are present on hard drive, it is recommended to completely wipe hard drive with zeros before installing any new OS. Newbies find dban more friendly than the dd command; find dban at http://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/files/, and download an older and smaller version for ease of use.

After much disto-hopping, I find the Debian-based distro antiX most excellent, especially for laptops and older PCs of any nature. See it at http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Syste...iX-27857.shtml.

Best wishes and be "pane-free"!!

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Old 05-31-2010, 04:31 PM   #13
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Process to add Gnumeric to my Linpus Lite Acer

I have tried to change Disto but i haven't enough room on my netbook to do so... so I have downloaded Gnumeric to use a spreadsheet program with Excel at work. My problem is that I don't know how to get it to run, once downloaded using X-Archiver... the box comes up suggesting that the download is complete but I am unaware how to get the software to open from this point. HELP!
I have options New Open Add Extract Delete and View.... what do I need to click on??

I have downloaded via the package manager but I am sure the program is older... still if anyone could explain the process above I would appreciate it

Last edited by juanpabloangel; 05-31-2010 at 05:07 PM. Reason: adding more!
 
Old 05-31-2010, 05:22 PM   #14
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I don't know about Gnumeric or Linpus specifically, but reinstalling the whole distro just to upgrade a program seems a little overkill to me. A simple
Code:
su -
yum update Openoffice (I don't know exactly what OO.o will come up as, but you will need to find that out)
may work, or if Linpus has kPackageKit, you could try opening it up and seeing if it automatically checks for updates for OO. As for what to do when you download a program to be installed, if it is Fedora-compatible (i.e. a .rpm or other Fedora-compatible package, since not all "Linux-compatible" programs work with all versions of Linux) you should be able to right-click on the file and select the option "install with kPackageKit" and there you go. I hope that helped a bit.
 
Old 05-31-2010, 06:09 PM   #15
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Hang on, this is all getting very silly.

Linpus uses 'pirut' as it's package manager, first off. (Or did at one point on a box I bought.) I can't remember under what tab or option it is, but you want to try and find that.

Installing under Linux is a dream for one good reason; licensing. A good rule for developing for Linux is that your code must be free, which generally means that it is able to be distributed and passed around. With this in mind you generally find lists of software packaged a certain way for each distribution of linux. These are called repositories. We have package managers to interact with these repositories.

Because these repos are full of free stuff, and that you have several already there, you have about 30k programs you can install right off the bat. Yes, there are some that require extra work, but a general user usually doesn't need them

But yes, to recap; find pirut, it is a package manager, and has more software on there than you can fit on your computer.
 
  


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