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Old 07-08-2003, 08:33 PM   #16
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the original poster is asking for hotmail.
 
Old 07-09-2003, 03:27 PM   #17
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Thanks for all your replies. I'll have to do a bit of research and RTFM I guess. It'd be nice if someone came up with an email client that is able to send/receive messages via Hotmail.

Can Hotmail be accessed through SMTP? If so, does anybody know the address of Hotmail's SMTP incoming and outgoing servers?


Thanks again.
 
Old 07-09-2003, 08:21 PM   #18
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Quote:
Originally posted by born4linux
the original poster is asking for hotmail.
Originally posted by Ken Ju-On
I was wondering how to access HTTP mail with a Linux email client
Born4Linux, I appreciate that Ken was asking about Hotmail in his case, but since in his own post he asks about HTTP mail, which I believe can be used as a general term not necessarily pertaining specifically to Hotmail, that my question is perfectly applicable to this discussion, do you not think? Perhaps there are people, other than myself, who would dearly love to access their Webmail from the comfort of their Linux email client - God knows there are enough Webmail services around! I was curious if the solution given above works for Hotmail only (ie the protocol used is specific to Microsoft services and is thus not used in other Webmail services) or whether it would work for others. That OK?

PS. Sorry if I sound a little testy - not been sleeping too well lately. Please bear with me - I shall be going on holiday soon enough!
 
Old 07-17-2003, 11:18 AM   #19
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hotwayd probs

[rsimkins@localhost hotwayd]$ rpm -Uvh hotwayd.rpm
error: cannot get exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Operation not permitted (1)
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm

here is my error, though I have a feeling it is a problem relating to my profile, the allowances or something like that. TBH I'm in a world of pain, windows cold turkey. Help me.....
 
Old 07-17-2003, 12:28 PM   #20
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whenever you get mad a linux for something, go back to
windows for little bit, then you'll remember why you tried
linux in the first place. go back and forth, and decide which
you hate most.
i've seen that error, but i can't remember what it is.
 
Old 07-25-2003, 02:46 AM   #21
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Try executing the RPM as "root" user.
 
Old 07-25-2003, 04:21 AM   #22
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as csekar said, you must be root to install an rpm. the $ by your prompt means you are a normal user. you need superuser privs. type su then enter your password and try again. also, when installing an rpm, use -ivh instead of -Uvh the U option tells rpm to upgrade.
 
Old 07-31-2003, 02:51 AM   #23
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[edit: i just realised that this thread had a second page.. hopefully this message is still relevant]

The hotwayd daemon is OK, but is very limited in functionality. It allows you to access hotmail through the POP3 protocol, which only allows you to read incoming mail. There is no functionality for managing folders, checking folders other than your INBOX (this is a pain if you like to filter your email into seperate folders)), and furthermore I found it to be extremely slow to check e-mails though my single-channel ISDN connection.

Someone has written a JavaMail library called JDAVMail http://sourceforge.net/projects/jdavmail/ which supports most if not all hotmail features... However, I don't know how to integrate this library into any of the major linux email clients such as Ximian Evolution.. does anyone know how to do this?

Anyway, what you probably want is a daemon like hotwayd that allows you to access Hotmail through the IMAP protocol rather than POP3... does anyone know of such a project??? I have been looking for such a project myself with no luck so far....

-surveillance

Last edited by surveillanceqq; 07-31-2003 at 02:53 AM.
 
Old 07-31-2003, 10:57 PM   #24
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Quote:
Originally posted by contrasutra
No mail clients can.

There are lots of programs that can intercept and convert Hotmail Mail. A sourceforge.net search will solve your problem.
foxmail has a hotmail claint,but it runs on win.............
 
Old 08-15-2003, 07:15 AM   #25
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This may sound noobie and all, but I changed to root (thanks for the explanation Abel, csekar), the rpm runs and tells me it is already installed. Which I find strange although I have been making so many changes and installs I forget what has worked and what hasn't, so maybe I did get it onto my box. Anyway, my next question is... where did install to (by default) and is there a way of seeing all the processes when the rpm executes?

Thanks in advance
 
Old 08-15-2003, 07:31 AM   #26
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I emailed Hotmail technical support a couple of weeks ago asking for any solution to accessing Hotmail with a Linux email client.

I probably shouldn't be surprised that I haven't received a reply yet....
 
Old 08-15-2003, 08:32 AM   #27
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I noticed that XP doesnt allow the user to see the URL of the incoming mail server, but I got this from my 2000 machine:

http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp

Is this what hotwayd uses for incoming mail? Also, how does it send outgoing messages?

(still wondering where hotwayd is and how to configure it now its installed)
 
Old 08-15-2003, 01:32 PM   #28
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scarecrow, hotwayd usually installs to /usr/sbin/ when you use the rpm approach. however, if you're still having problems you can use the tarball approach as outlined in http://hotwayd.sourceforge.net/install/

which others have referenced in this thread...
 
Old 08-15-2003, 01:37 PM   #29
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Question hotwayd giving PASS errors...

i configured hotwayd per instructions found at http://hotwayd.sourceforge.net/install/

however, when i try to receive mail via evolution, i get a password/username error.

i can telnet into my localhost.localdomain and *.pop3 is listening, but yet this problem remains....
 
Old 08-15-2003, 01:40 PM   #30
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Erm... taking the short-cut, is it possible to access Hotmail on Linux via Outlook Express via Wine?
 
  


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