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Old 10-14-2011, 07:41 PM   #1
justacoupleofquestions
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A couple of questions before choosing a dist


Hello

I need some help choosing the correct dist.

First off im not experienced. I've tried Ubuntu without being able to learn anything important. Everything is autopilot. I have played around with ClarkConnect and got it working properly with running services etc.

The purpose of the dist is for me to learn new things and get a stable workstation.

Workstation:
Laptop, IBM thinkpad r500. 64 bit cpu and 4gb ram. laptop screen + one extra monitor. Used for customer support. Main tool is java based and should work fine with linux and the rest is up to the browsers. I also like design quiet a bit so it has to be sleek looking.

Learning experience:
I would love to learn not to rely on a GUI but still have the option somewhere. I dont want to be stranded with a command line and rely on a 2nd pc with windows for guidance. I.E, as long as i can connect to a network, configure monitors, have sound, browse and start my java app im pretty happy.

What i want in the end:
A cmd line to start my software in, ie browsers and the java app.
"hidden" GUI?.
Alt tab funktion
perhaps multiple cmd lines for running different services like ip trace, portscan and pingtests.
extended dual monitors.

I know i have seen someone, 7 years ago or so, using a only a couple of cmd line windows, where he could config them to be transparent, move around, resize, etc etc. I did not notice icons.

Looking forward to hear your thought, questions? Ask =)

/d
 
Old 10-14-2011, 08:22 PM   #2
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Ubuntu and Fedora can both do all of those things as long as you take the time to configure them correctly. I mention Fedora because it's a bit less on autopilot and I'm quite fond of it. The common suggestion around here is to download virtualbox and run couple of distros in a virtual configuration before committing to an install. To be honest, many distros can do all of what you want. The GUI is all dependent on the desktop environment you choose- I like KDE, but the new Gnome 3 is supposed to be nice, too. Most distributions also allow you to hotkey full-screen command line mode. You will have to do some work with drivers to get the dual-screen to work, but it's far from impossible. Basically it will come down to which distro appeals to you.
 
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:07 PM   #3
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@ justacoupleofquestions

There are distros that give you as much learning as possible. You can try Arch linux and slackware. Arch has a great wiki documentation to learn about configuring your system from the commandline.

http://distrowatch.com/ has other distros you can review

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Old 10-15-2011, 07:46 AM   #4
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Thanks for the input.

After following the jumps on slackware and archlinux, i seem to have found what i need. Archlinux. Their site and presentation appealed to me.

Any last words before i venture into this unexplored dungeon?

Thanks

/d
 
Old 10-15-2011, 09:44 AM   #5
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Here you go:

Debian Desktop Survival Guide
http://linux.togaware.com/survivor/index.html
The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/
The Linux Cookbook
http://www.dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_toc.html
about debian
http://www.aboutdebian.com/
Linux Documentation Project

http://www.tldp.org/
Rute Tutorial & Exposition

http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
Linux Command Guide 

http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml
Bash Beginners Guide

http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-G...tml/index.html
Bash Reference Manual

http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide

http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
Linux Newbie Admin Guide

http://lnag.sourceforge.net/
LinuxSelfHelp

http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/
Utimate Linux Newbie Guide
http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/cont...r-1-what-linux
live cd
http://www.livecdlist.com/?pick=Linu...All&sort=&sm=1

Most of these I got from LQ!
 
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:40 AM   #6
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I second your choosing: Archlinux.

After having installed and used it for a while, you will probably notice you have to reformulate your first post in this thread, and you will probably have more accurate questions that will have a proper answer.

I suggest you to install whatever Desktop you prefer (coming from Ubuntu you are probably familiar with Gnome, but there's also KDE and XFCE). And later look into Window Managers. These are probably your key piece here, since they define the basics about how you will interact with your computer.

Having used Archlinux for a while will also give your doses of command line usage, so you are not that scared about it.

You definitely can't live without X in pure text-mode if your java application has some kind of GUI interface (it probably does, doesn't it?).
 
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Old 10-15-2011, 12:59 PM   #7
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@etech3
Thanks a bunch for those links. This thread is now a bookmark.

@i92guboj
Great input. My Java app has a GUI yes. Both browser based tools and the java app requires "windows" navigation, ie. alt-tab, tab, copy/paste and clicking (lol).
I'm currently reading up on the installation process since i dare not to ruin the existing win7. Imagine coming to work monday not being able to work. I guess the threshold will be to get the most basic usage in place so it wont interfere with work routines.

Thanks for the support
 
Old 10-17-2011, 06:32 PM   #8
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A couple of days later...

Posting this from my netbook with archlinux installed. Using LXDE and firefox.
I went with the netbook first, before doing it on my workstation. I'm going to explore and get more stuff working before moving on to my primary target.

@i92guboj
Your are quiet right that i will need to reformulate my questions. But just not yet.

The Archlinux documentation gets doubleplus good grades. Only minor headaches when not reading prescription properly.

I'll be back for a couple of questions more.

/d
 
  


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