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Old 11-20-2007, 01:21 PM   #1
fireblade_spark
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Exclamation A complete distro


Can anyone please tell me any KDE based distro(thats a important part! as Gnome doest function on my PC so...) which is complete and contains every needed software. I wouldn't mind if its a DVD, all i want is OS which once installed is complete within itself and is ready to use!!
I am insisting upon this coz i don't want to use net every time i need any software.
Before this i used Mandriva 2008 live in which i had to download bittorrent before i could start using any torrent file!!
so i am fed up with that and now i would like to download a COMPLETE OS wit all the software pre-installed!
 
Old 11-20-2007, 01:24 PM   #2
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Define "all the software"?



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Old 11-20-2007, 01:31 PM   #3
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softwares like:
Office
Cd\DVD burning
Music player(audio)
Movie player
Torrent client
Chat Messenger
Pdf reader
Internet browser
and please all of them should be GUI based and no download from internet!!
 
Old 11-20-2007, 01:32 PM   #4
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"complete" is in the eye of the beholder

mepis is a well rounded distro, and extra software is just a quick apt-get/synaptic away.
 
Old 11-20-2007, 01:50 PM   #5
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If you want all the software, you're going to have to buy all the harddisks in the world, if it's enough. So you don't like to use internet to install software - all right, so all software would need to be there right out of the package. That doesn't mean a "complete distro" for me, not to mention a complete OS.

Anyway, all those programs you mentioned are very probably included in every "major" distribution: Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, SuSE, Slackware, ... -- if the default desktop doesn't suit you, you can easily switch it. Many distributions give you a DVD in addition to a CD set, which basically is the same but includes more software. However pdf viewers, office programs, cd writing applications, audio players and so on are core components of every distribution, and they're pretty surely there. If you don't like what is offered, then it's your headache to change them, but they are there. For example you can read pdf files with xpdf, acroread, Kpdf (or something), Gnome's pdf viewer, ... then there are OpenOffice, Koffice, ... and when it comes to audio and video ("media") players, you've got more than you asked. Codecs are another matter, but that's because of lawsuits, not because it was born difficult. If you take the latest Fedora dvd and install everything, you'll waste a whole lot of disk space which results in you having approximately five programs for your every need: several video players, several audio players, several office programs, several pdf document viewers, ... Ubuntu's approach is to install only one program for one need, if possible, Fedora's approach is to install everything you don't specifically ask not to. Make your decicion then..

Just to mention, Windows is the only OS around I see that does _not_ offer you all the basic tools right out of the box.
 
Old 11-20-2007, 01:59 PM   #6
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Debian should work if you have 4 dvd's and a dvd burner/drive (or something like 21 CDRoms)..
The main problem is that the local dvd will usually be obsolete n a couple of weeks.
 
Old 11-20-2007, 02:09 PM   #7
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Mint is the only one I can think of that comes with all of the non-free codecs.

As for their other "softwares" have a look for yourself

http://linuxmint.com/software/?sec=categories&release=1
 
Old 11-20-2007, 02:10 PM   #8
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Kubuntu = Ubuntu(which has almost everything you listed) + KDE. I didn't know that when I installed Ubuntu yesterday so now I'm installing KDE as we speak. (correct me on the Kubuntu thing if it isn't) I'm using Wubi (http://wubi-installer.org/) for the install. If you don't want to mess around with CDs(as I didn't), just download it and select Kubuntu when you get there(same place as username/pw/lang/ect..). Just a suggestion! http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techbl...ubuntu_feisty/ also if you just want to update your drivers quickly and pain-free! (I know nothing of linux so I used it) Anyway, Good Luck!
 
Old 11-20-2007, 02:39 PM   #9
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I think PCLinuxOS would be a good KDE-based distro that meets your requirements. It comes with many of the proprietary codecs. It branched from Mandriva.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 08:20 AM   #10
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well it seems spark's question has been answered faily satisfactorily. As everyone has pointed out, there is no definition of complete software. There are software to control satelites sitting behind a dingy computer. So spark should be specific about what he needs. he has answered that. But no software is free of minor flaws.That is one of the reasons for updates. And it is childish to expect a distro to be released with only a few minor corrections ( As it is there are one too many). so the internet. The easiest and quickest way to get information about anything. ( including when god was born and when he is going to kick the bucket). If spark does not want to go to the internet so be it. But he should not envy the others who have downloaded the latest eye candy or the latest ripper from the net. As forbryantv's comment he was unfair. It is true that by the time a debian is available it is obsolete. But it is also true and as somebody put it, you need to fire a rocket at it to stop iy from working. Debrah and Ian are a lovable couple and let us all raise them a toast.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 09:05 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsTimeToMoveOn View Post
Kubuntu = Ubuntu(which has almost everything you listed) + KDE. I didn't know that when I installed Ubuntu yesterday so now I'm installing KDE as we speak. (correct me on the Kubuntu thing if it isn't) I'm using Wubi (http://wubi-installer.org/) for the install. If you don't want to mess around with CDs(as I didn't), just download it and select Kubuntu when you get there(same place as username/pw/lang/ect..). Just a suggestion! http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techbl...ubuntu_feisty/ also if you just want to update your drivers quickly and pain-free! (I know nothing of linux so I used it) Anyway, Good Luck!
Don't use Wubi. I've seen several people use Wubi to install Ubuntu and it ends just being very, very slow and buggy. I'm not just saying this either. Everyone I know personally that's used it saw much better performance after performing a native install. Just a suggestion here...

As for Kubuntu being Ubuntu + KDE, you're absolutely correct. That's all it really is.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 09:32 AM   #12
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Debian should work if you have 4 dvd's and a dvd burner/drive (or something like 21 CDRoms)..
The main problem is that the local dvd will usually be obsolete n a couple of weeks.
For all my love for Debian, I wouldn't recommend it in your case - there's around 1 hour of work (updating, installing non-free codecs, dvd etc) until you get a 'fully' functional system (3d graphics, dvd, flash, realplayer etc.)

As someone suggested, try Mint, PCLinuxOS, or (K)Ubuntu
hth
 
Old 12-20-2007, 11:29 AM   #13
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Slackware + linuxpackages.net ;-)
 
Old 12-20-2007, 01:13 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bryantrv View Post
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The main problem is that the local dvd will usually be obsolete n a couple of weeks.
True, if the ISO isn't already out of date upon download.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fireblade_spark View Post
... all i want is OS which once installed is complete within itself and is ready to use!!
I am insisting upon this coz i don't want to use net every time i need any software.
Fair enough. There are plenty of distro's with KDE that let you install everything or make a selection if you know what you need, it doesn't even have to be DVD based as some know how to fit a big and good selection on a CD ROM too.
It seems strange to me Gnome doesn't work on your machine. I can understand if you don't want Gnome on your PC but that's a different story...
However, taking some time to set-up your system isn't strange, especially with all the small (k)parts KDE also has and which are rarely included in a distro but also thinking of games which sometimes are as big as a CD ROM, or additional data-files or plug-ins which aren't part of the core program but are useful nevertheless.

Anyway, besides missing out on software which you can install just to try I do hope you do not mean "complete within itself" as in "no updates needed" because software gets improved continuously and quite often out of security concerns. Even on a system "complete within itself and is ready to use", you should check for updates at least weekly via internet.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 01:55 PM   #15
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all i want is OS which once installed is complete within itself and is ready to use!!
I am insisting upon this coz i don't want to use net every time i need any software.
Before this i used Mandriva 2008 live in which i had to download bittorrent before i could start using any torrent file!!
so i am fed up with that and now i would like to download a COMPLETE OS wit all the software pre-installed!
Come on man, your complaining about installing some programs on on a OS you downloaded for FREE. I don't mean to get on your case or be disrespectful but have a little courtesy, the people who put this stuff together in most cases donate their time so you will have a well running OS. I've never seen any OS that includes windows that comes with everything you need without having to install something. And for that matter without costing you an arm or a leg to have.

In most cases if you spend the time installing what you need, to do what you want, and then leave it be, it will last for a long time and not give you any problems.

So my advice is, if you want to use Linux, find one that has most of what you need, install what the rest of what you need, and quit complaining because you have to do a little work.
 
  


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