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Old 10-10-2010, 06:52 AM   #1
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64 bit


I have a 64 bit system on which I am trying to install Linux. I installed Ubuntu but it does not have a dialup option and since I live in a rural area I only have access to dialup at this time.

Does anyone know of a 64 bit operating system which contains dialup capability? I have tried reading about the various distros but have been unable to find any which indicate they work with dialup.

Thank you for your help.
 
Old 10-10-2010, 07:13 AM   #2
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Hi,

Google wvdial
 
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:35 AM   #3
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any linux distro supports (and well) dial-up. For graphical ways to setup and use it, like in MS-Windows, look for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome-ppp (in GNOME) or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kppp (in KDE)

* a tip: avoid 64bit distros in the beginning (it can be a source of problems, and the performance difference, for common tasks, is about imperceptible - 32bit "fully normally" works on 64bit machines)

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Old 10-10-2010, 11:10 AM   #4
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any linux distro supports (and well) dial-up. For graphical ways to setup and use it, like in MS-Windows, look for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome-ppp (in GNOME) or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kppp (in KDE)
This programs are not for configuring dialup.

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* a tip: avoid 64bit distros in the beginning (it can be a source of problems, and the performance difference, for common tasks, is about imperceptible - 32bit "fully normally" works on 64bit machines)
Only true if you don't have more than 3 GB of RAM.
 
Old 10-10-2010, 04:59 PM   #5
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Worse comes to worse you can use AT commands to connect.

The type of modem may be important. Soft or usb may have issues under 64 bit more than 32 bit maybe. A hardware ought to work as long as you have serial on almost any distro known.

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Old 10-19-2010, 12:28 AM   #6
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any linux distro supports (and well) dial-up. For graphical ways to setup and use it, like in MS-Windows, look for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome-ppp (in GNOME) or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kppp (in KDE)
I think a lot of people on the Linmodem mailing list would disagree that all Linux distros are well supportive of dial up. Ubuntu seems dead set against it. Puppy Linux 431 is the most dial up friendly one I have found.
 
Old 10-19-2010, 12:36 AM   #7
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I have a 64 bit system on which I am trying to install Linux. I installed Ubuntu but it does not have a dialup option and since I live in a rural area I only have access to dialup at this time.

Does anyone know of a 64 bit operating system which contains dialup capability? I have tried reading about the various distros but have been unable to find any which indicate they work with dialup.

Thank you for your help.
Puppy Linux 431 is very dialup friendly. You can dial from Ubuntu but the learning curve is steep. With Puppy if the modem is compatible the setup is a no brainer. They also have a version of 431 with extra modem drivers or you can start with the standard and add the extra drivers if necessary. It found a little over half the winmodems I tried on it,

Before I would try to get a winmodem to work in Ubuntu I would buy a used serial modem from E-bay for 20.00 and run the setserial program and then Gnome PPP as suggested. I have dial up working in both with either the winmodem or the serial but use Puppy 95% of the time because it is so fast.
 
Old 10-20-2010, 06:52 AM   #8
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reply to suggestions

First I downloaded wvdial and attempted to install, using the package installer, but received the following "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: lubunicon 4.4". I have no idea what that means or what to do about it.

Second on tht use of Puppy I tried to use 4.3 which I already have used before but cannot get it to work. Something I am doing or not compatable with 64 bit?
 
Old 11-18-2010, 07:03 AM   #9
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thank you

I see that as usual the help provided by forums, especially for beginners, is of little or no value.

Thank you for all the misinformation and to those of you who had something productive to add I thank you as well but my problem still exists. In the past I have tried to use ubuntu 32 bit but it would never install. I searched for help but got tons of misinformation much of which was way over the head of a newbie. It never worked and with this type of help only those of you with the knowledge will be able to use the program. Sorry I was hoping for a replacement for windows.

As much as I hate Microsoft I think I will install 64 bit Windows since I cannot get this to work.
 
Old 11-18-2010, 07:41 AM   #10
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Hi,

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I see that as usual the help provided by forums, especially for beginners, is of little or no value.
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Originally Posted by tfrost2002 View Post


Thank you for all the misinformation and to those of you who had something productive to add I thank you as well but my problem still exists. In the past I have tried to use ubuntu 32 bit but it would never install. I searched for help but got tons of misinformation much of which was way over the head of a newbie. It never worked and with this type of help only those of you with the knowledge will be able to use the program. Sorry I was hoping for a replacement for windows.


As much as I hate Microsoft I think I will install 64 bit Windows since I cannot get this to work.
I could throw "Thank you for all the misinformation" back at you since you really never provided information back or initially to the forum. Mostly just general statements.

I suggest that you look at 'How to Ask Questions the Smart Way' so in the future your queries provide information that will aid us in diagnosis of the problem or query.




(Linux is Not Windows)
is another link that I suggest that you read.

I don't use dial-up any longer but I'm sure that Ubuntu can be used when the proper steps are performed by the user. BTW, I'm not a Ubuntu user, I prefer Slackware. Look at
Setting up Dial-up connection in Ubuntu which provides detailed instructions on the subject. If you have problems after following the procedure(s) then post back. Be sure to provide all error messages or any information relative to the error/problem.

Most people that participate at LQ do expect that a person does some work or at least attempt to perform a task(s) with some effort. We are volunteers here on LQ so any help is freely given, not a tech help desk. If you want such then expect to pay for it.


<Linux> - Google
provided;

How to Set up a Dial up Internet Connection in Linux
should provide the instructions to get a connection.
Another Howto: Modem-Dialup-NT HOW-TO: Quick Steps to Dialup Networking

Just a few links to aid you to gaining some understanding;


1 Linux Documentation Project
2 Rute Tutorial & Exposition
3 Linux Command Guide
4 Bash Beginners Guide
5 Bash Reference Manual
6 Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
7 Linux Newbie Admin Guide
8 LinuxSelfHelp
9 Getting Started with Linux
The above links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links'. More than just Slackware® links!

"Knowledge is of two kinds. We Know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it."- Samuel Johnson

 
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:43 AM   #11
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Sorry I was hoping for a replacement for windows.
It's not. You will only be able to like Linux once you realize that.

http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
 
Old 11-18-2010, 09:28 AM   #12
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If you truly want help, start by providing us with some info. Distros have nothing to do with dialup. They all have the same kernel, and hence they all support the same range of hardware, no more, no less.

The real question is if you own a true modem, or a winmodem. The winmodems are just a hole to plug a cable, the modem is in the driver not in the hardware, and since the hardware specifications are closed there's no way to build a winmodem driver for linux other than reverse engineering. There are some cases where this is possible and doable, there are some others where it's not worth the effort to do that.

So, provide us with the info, brand, model, numbers, etc of your modem. Whatever can help us identify it. That'll be a start. Otherwise just use the tool that works for you and stop complaining. There's nothing embarrassing on using Windows is that's your call. Linux is not Windows, just like an helicopter is not a car. If you want to drive an helicopter you must learn afresh. If doesn't matter if you have driven two thousand cars before. Until you understand that Linux won't be for you.

Oh, (and this has nothing to do with Linux, but with life): yelling at people who offer help in an uninterested manner is the way to make them go away. If you don't understand something just let people know and ask for clarification. Someone will be able to help eventually. We all had to learn one day.
 
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:36 AM   #13
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(...) my problem still exists. (...)
this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
 
Old 11-19-2010, 08:25 AM   #14
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your help

I see that as usual some people have lectures to give without reading the entire thread. I will not reply to stupid comments.

Help is appreciated not lectures. Did you consider answering the question asked or simply need to prove how smart you think you are?

I have a US Robotics Model 5686E external modem which was suggested, in another forum, as the modem that would work with this os. I have tried installing the linux drivers suggested by someone else in another forum. The modem requires a connection which I do not have available so the US Robotics tech suggested buying a usb connector for the modem which would then work but does not because the all great ubuntu does not recognize the cable or modem. I have tried wvdial and if someone had read the entire post they would see that it would not install (see above). I tried to install 64 bit Fedora to replace ubuntu but it would not install. This is 64 bit Ubuntu please keep that in mind.

There are some new suggestions which I will try and thank you for your help but for those of you who feel the need to impress please keep your lectures and misinformation to yourselves.

To those of you who actually read the thread and have help to offer I thank you.
 
Old 11-19-2010, 05:05 PM   #15
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(...) This is 64 bit Ubuntu please keep that in mind. (...)
this may be the source off all your problems: stick with 32bits distros
 
  


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