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Old 05-07-2014, 08:44 AM   #16
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Would like your input as to what I should be looking for as a replacement PC that is good with Linux. NOT WINDOWS 8 ! and how do we get around the sercure boot ?

Thanks again

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I would think that you probably don't need one of the latest computer, like the one running Windows 8. You could look around for a computer running windows 7, maybe something with a i3 or i5 processor or equivalent, 3 or 4 GB of RAM or more and about 300 or more GB hard drive.

Where I live I check sites like craigslist.org for second hand computers and other stuff sometimes there are good deals, and you can save some money that way.

Brand New stuff are nice though and if you don't have a problem spending a little bit more then go for a new one.

the latest version of Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, and Fedora would boot in a computer with secure boot, you still need to disable fast boot in windows.

Good luck to you.
 
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:25 AM   #17
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Thank you Tinkster, I know that I am pushing this very old PC and my isp (BT) is very poor for speed, but we are miles from exchange (live in the country) there is not much that can be done !

Would it make much difference to put grade my PC if we can't up grade my isp?

Would like your input as to what I should be looking for as a replacement PC that is good with Linux. NOT WINDOWS 8 ! and how do we get around the sercure boot ?

Thanks again

Richard14
You might want to consider a micro ATX drop in replacement motherboard, which will determine CPU and memory, for your existing Dell PC. The MSI G31TMP21 motherboard or any MSI successor motherboard to the G31TMP21 would be a good choice. Just make sure that you get everything from a reputable store (i.e. NOT Fry's). You also probably want to upgrade your hard drive to at least 1000 GB and your RAM to 8 GB. The motherboard should have its own video and just about everything else. But make sure that the CPU will support the video if the motherboard requires it.

Then your upgraded computer should be ready for linux. Regarding windows 8 and its secure boot, I would install linux only on the computer, install VMWare Workstation under linux and then run windows 8 under VMWare Workstation.
 
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Old 05-09-2014, 05:13 AM   #18
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Thanks xode.

If you any other ideas for a complete new PC I will be interested.


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Old 05-09-2014, 10:45 AM   #19
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If you any other ideas for a complete new PC I will be interested.
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If you also want to replace your case and power supply, then you could get what is called a white box system, which is where you choose all of the parts and either put them together yourself or have someone, including possibly the company you got the parts from, do it for you. If you are not concerned about your case and power supply, then I would go with what I previously suggested, since that would essentially be replacing just about the entire computer anyways and you have the advantage that you keep the same physical box.

I didn't mention it in my previous post, but you want at least a dual core 64 bit CPU and preferably a quad core 64 bit CPU. A virtual machine is just about as hungry for resources as an actual computer, so, when you have your virtual machine(s) running, you will essentially be running two (or more) computers on top of the same hardware.

In any event, one linux distribution that will likely work well for you is SUSE. I believe that they are up to version 13.1 at the moment. You want to install the 64 bit version of SUSE, since you want to avoid the year 2038 linux time bug which has been fixed in the 64 bit version but not the 32 bit version. My understanding is that a working 32 bit software infrastructure (e.g. glibc, etc.) is also installed so that a 64 bit linux system can run 32 bit linux applications as well as 64 bit linux applications, so you don't lose anything by installing 64 bit.

Then, once your linux system is installed, you are ready for VMWare Workstation. The current version is Workstation 10. Every version since Workstation 8 on has supported windows 8, so you should have no problem installing a windows 8 virtual machine.
 
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Thanks xode very helpful.

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