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Old 05-09-2014, 05:46 AM   #1
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14.04 LTS is running/ need help with partitions/ prt-scr attached/ thanks


I have Gparted partition editor installed.
Just a tad perplexed [scared to death] of making the wrong move here.
I have all my personal files/folders on an external drive, I wish to give
Ubuntu and it's supporting cast, all the room they want. I intend to be a maker at some point here on LinuxQuestions.org, but for right now, untill I learn more,
I have become somewhat of a taker.

"we are either makers or takers".....Issac Newton

Thank You!!
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:30 AM   #2
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I don't understand what you want to accomplish.

As I see it, sda1 is 924 gig, and you have a small, unallocated 7 gig on sda2. Since you have 258 gig of stuff on sda1, and you are not telling us what that is, ( I'm guessing its your Ubuntu install, including /home ) what is it you want to change, modify?
 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:05 PM   #3
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Hi there,

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I don't understand what you want to accomplish.
I'm glad I'm not the only one.

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As I see it, sda1 is 924 gig, and you have a small, unallocated 7 gig on sda2. Since you have 258 gig of stuff on sda1
No, it's just the other way round: The 258GB is unused space, that is, available. So the OP has a 1TB harddisk with only one useful partition, which is about 3/4 full. I guess he wants to discard the extended partition and integrate the remaing 7GB into the one big partition - which would be a mere drop in the bucket.

By the way: Am I the only one to think this is a strange setup? At a minimum, I would've made separate partitions for /boot and /home, and allocated a max of about 20..30GB for the root file system. And there's something else that strikes me: No swap partition?

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Old 05-09-2014, 03:38 PM   #4
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i wouldn't bother a newbie with seperate /home and /boot partitions.
but more than 1 partitions there should be, definitely, esp. on sucj a large drive.
however, moving 665GB of data around, i think it's going to be very painful if you don't happen to have another 1TB drive around.

yes, a swap partition.
how about making that 7GB into swap, for starters? (but please remove the extended partiton first, and make the 7GB of unallocated space into a primary partition)
 
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Old 05-09-2014, 04:04 PM   #5
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Hi there,

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i wouldn't bother a newbie with seperate /home and /boot partitions.
okay, a separate partition for /boot isn't vitally necessary, but I wouldn't want to merge /boot into the root file system, though I don't have a real solid reason for that. Just some sort of gut feeling. Got used to that when I set up my first Linux system, which was Gentoo, and the guide book I followed suggested that.

However, since my earliest days of using a PC, I have never, never mixed user data with OS and software. Not in DOS, not in any Windows flavor, and nowadays, not in Linux. Always had separate partitions, and I would strongly recommend everyone to have it that way. Actually, I haven't set up /home with an extra partition on any of my systems. But then I'm using /home only as a junkyard for many programs' user-specific configuration. For the actual every-day working data, which may be many gigabytes, I do have an extra partition that I usually have mounted to /data.

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but more than 1 partitions there should be, definitely, esp. on sucj a large drive.
Especially then, agreed.

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however, moving 665GB of data around, i think it's going to be very painful if you don't happen to have another 1TB drive around.
Yes, it's too late to close the barn now that the horse has already escaped. At this point, it would be too much of a fuss to shift data around, especially when every step bears the risk of failure.

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yes, a swap partition.
how about making that 7GB into swap, for starters? (but please remove the extended partiton first, and make the 7GB of unallocated space into a primary partition)
I thought of that, too. And yes, the extended partition is really pointless in this scenario.
There was one aspect, though, that stopped me from suggesting that. I usually try to set up partitions so that the root file system and the swap partition are physically close to each other. With the partitioning we have here, it is likely that most of the system files are located at the beginning of the drive (low sector numbers), and the swap partition would be at the end (high sector numbers). That would involve a lot of R/W head movement when the swap space is really needed, and then swapping would deteriorate the overall performance quite a lot. Not to mention the stress it imposes on the HDD.

My typical partition layout is therefore: First /boot (less than 1GB), then swap (about 4GB), then root (about 20..30GB), then /data (the remaining space). For the sake of speed and quietness.

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Old 05-09-2014, 04:12 PM   #6
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Maybe the OP will come back but his post is pretty confusing. First saying Ubuntu is running and then indicating he wants to install it but not where. On the 1TB? So what is the ext4 partition on sda1 now? If you want to create another partition on that drive, you need to shrink the ext4 partition. As indicated above, you have over 250GB available on which to create a partition to put it. You need to post more detail on what your intentions are.
 
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Old 05-09-2014, 05:42 PM   #7
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The Op is running gparted from the system & the partition is mounted as noted by the key on the left-hand side. They should run gparted from live-media so that the partition isn't mounted.
I agree about necessity of seperate /home & swap, but /boot is not necessary with only 1 OS.
I would also agree that the OP needs to add another drive to the system
 
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:36 PM   #8
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14.04 lts

The attached is the 'after' view of my system. I did a fresh re-re-re-install of Win7.
The F drive is a Seagate on which i use to seed my utorrent files. No more to be added. Open for Ubuntu use only.
I have purchased a 32G usb flash drive to 'live' mount my download of 14.04 tonight.
I will be waiting for your replies/help.

Many thanks,
/pete
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:48 PM   #9
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My favorite Isaac Newton quote:

"If I have seen further, it is from standing on the shoulders of giants."

This forum has many folks who I consider to be giants in the world of Linux.
 
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Old 05-11-2014, 05:01 AM   #10
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I will be waiting for your replies/help.
help withwhat exactly?
now you're sending windows screenshots - i don't understand what's going on.

please take a minute for yourself to define the problem.
also, keep it to one problem at a time.

reading the link in my signature might help.
 
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:04 PM   #11
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Define the problem.

The problem is, I want to set up Ubuntu to run correctly, for a very, very long time.[I am only 67]
I am fed up w/ Windows constant: 1)'important updates' that no living creature on earth knows what is IN the code itself and the subsquent registry alterations those create [not to mention registry failure / corruption] 2) anti-virus programs that only monitor the user [required by-you guessed it MS] 3) MicroSoft's own self indulgence (love of ones self) 4) the constant crashes and related rebootings / reinstallations) 5) the costs associated with 1,2,3 and 4; I could go on...

Today I purchased a Seagate 500 GB external drive and had a friend help me set it up. We did our best but I still don't have a 'swap' partition, nor do i completely understand it's function / use;
as I have read about and some of you kind folks have eluded too. I'm a newbie!!!!! still wet-behind-the-ears just retired...
After I mentioned all the chit that comes w/ Unity, he suggested Cinnomin but we could not download it , so I am typing from Gnome. A Unity LTS 14.04 base I guess.. I have one hell-of-a-ladder to climb to reach you guys, but i'll get there.

Attached please find and comment on the screen-shots, if I/we are on the right track.
Special thanks for the quote of Mr. Newton's
If there is any interest on our very close future please visit King World News and Harvey Organ's
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldne...orld_News.html
http://harveyorgan.blogspot.com/
p.s. it took me a while to figure out what 'OP' meant...lol
p.s.s. i have noticed that not too many new posts are being added,,tells me most of the world seems to be a tad ahead of me...
most of tha questions on the www are from the early 2000's
Thank You,
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:35 PM   #12
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You don't necessarily need a swap partition if you have an adequate amount of RAM. It is only used if your RAM is not sufficient for what you are doing and is similar to pagefile on windows. Also, your second image does show a swap partition of 2GB, partition 5. Since you are able to boot Ubuntu, it's time to start exploring and using it.

If you have any specific questions, just post.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 01:05 AM   #13
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The problem is, I want to set up Ubuntu to run correctly
that is not your problem, that's your desired outcome.
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p.s. it took me a while to figure out what 'OP' meant...lol
yeah, sorry for those abbreviations. you can always use http://www.urbandictionary.com/ if something cryptic like that comes up.
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most of tha questions on the www are from the early 2000's
that's just not true.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 01:15 AM   #14
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Read this Psychocats page on how to install Ubuntu. Then read the entire site, it is actually quite informative, and go from there.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 01:33 AM   #15
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@yancek

Thanks,

'Since you are able to boot'
Question: when I start up my computer with windows7 still loaded, the only way I am able to boot Ubuntu is to press the 'esc' key at startup and select a different option, namely 'boot menu', then I can select the Seagate drive on which Ubuntu is loaded. Am I assuming correctly in that I will be forced to follow this procedure as long as windows remains on the main hard drive ? Methinks, yes.

Comment: Two fold, I have been an initial seeder on KAT [kickass torrents] for almost two years now. My handle there is Cicero777. I have tried to use Vuze which is Ubuntu's imbedded / accepted torrent client, and a KAT approved client as well. Some of the movies are imo, dearly needed in the times that we face especially important for the youth, again in imo. As I am still new to Ubuntu, I like having windows around for my torrents [uses Utorrent] and having something to lean on untill I gain enough knowledge, experience, on Ubuntu. Yes, it's time to start exploring and using it, and I intend to but I also have to find a way to use Ubuntu to seed those flicks as well.
Would you be able to offer any suggestions on my torrent concerns ? KAT only allows Utorrent and Vuze, as far as seeding goes in their FAQ page.

VERY impressed with Ubuntu, very stable.
 
  


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