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Old 04-19-2004, 02:30 PM   #16
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Quote:
Originally posted by Marc A
Maybe you can compare your settings in mandrake and in debian to see the différences.
Nvidia is known to give problems and they have non-free drivers but nv should do the job.
I've read : "Option "UseFBDev" "true" in the device part.
Does it mean you're using frame buffer option? Try to comment that one (put # before the line)

Good luck. Marc A
Commenting Option "UseFBDev" "true" didn't work.But i'il post my mandrake XF86Config-4 latrer.
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( post #15)

Libranet is a Debian system that has the ability to facilitate an easy install. Once easily installed you have Debian. It also has a great hardware detection system. Check out the reviews at http://www.distrowatch.com/ or just visit the website at http://libranet.com/
I just want my debian running.

Last edited by hylke; 04-19-2004 at 02:46 PM.
 
Old 04-19-2004, 03:07 PM   #17
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My mandrake 'XF86Config-4':
Code:
 File generated by XFdrake.

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
    # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
    # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
    # the X server to render fonts.
    FontPath "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work
    #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    Load "extmod"
    Load "type1"
    Load "freetype"
    Load "glx" # 3D layer
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Keyboard1"
    Driver "Keyboard"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl"
    Option "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse1"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
    Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
    Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Plug'n Play"
    ModelName "Daewoo 518B"
    HorizSync 30-69
    VertRefresh 50-120

    # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
    # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "1024x480"    65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494  563 -hsync -vsync

    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)"
    Driver "nvidia"
    Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 16

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Virtual 1024 768
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Virtual 1024 768
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Virtual 1024 768
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Virtual 1024 768
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    Screen "screen1"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
EndSection
 
Old 04-19-2004, 04:26 PM   #18
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hylke - I am having the same problem right now.

I have tried using the

Option "IgnoreEDID" "1"

but it still went nuts. The "Load "glx" " is also in place. I have posted something in the nVidia forums and am awaiting a response. If you find out anything, please post it for the rest of us, I'll do the same for you .

Thanks,
Zace
 
Old 04-19-2004, 04:32 PM   #19
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Install the nVidia Drivers and follow instructions in their README file. You have to use "nvidia" as the driver for your video card.

nVidia installation is pretty straightforward.

HTH

Last edited by mandeltuete; 04-19-2004 at 04:33 PM.
 
Old 04-19-2004, 04:40 PM   #20
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Mandeltuete:

I know, but if I do that my computer will not load in the X Server. It gets to the end of the boot sequence and then crashes into the console. Thats what hylke and I are trying to solve...how to get it to Driver "nvidia" and still have it work ^_^
 
Old 04-19-2004, 07:52 PM   #21
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@Gamezace & hylke
Are you a team? Or have you both the exactly same problem? :S

@hylke
Well, the Debian XF86Config file is wrong. First you have to change Driver "nv" to nvidia, and then you have to remove Load "GLcore" and Load "dri". Or have you posted your old XF86Config file?

Have you tried your working Mandrake config file in Debian?

Anyway, the XFree log tells you that you are using the nv driver, rather than the nvidia driver. As I said, install the nvidia driver, and change your config file. If you have done that allready, and you say it crashes to console, you will mostly find a pretty good error message on your screen. Tell us that message, please.
 
Old 04-19-2004, 10:14 PM   #22
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@mandeltuete

Heh, nope - we are two completely different people with the same problem.

I haven't seen the directions you gave anywhere else, including in nVidia's readme. I'm going to print them out and try them out the next chance I get. The "Load 'GLcore' " and "Load 'dri' " deletions, specifically, are new. Thanks for the help thus far...I'll be posting soon enough in response.

As always, thank you.
Zace
 
Old 04-19-2004, 10:47 PM   #23
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Quote:
On my computer i have a Geforce FX AGP 8X
Quote:
(II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA128, RIVATNT, RIVATNT2,
RIVATNT2 (A), RIVATNT2 (B), RIVATNT2 (Ultra), RIVATNT2 (Vanta),
RIVATNT2 M64, RIVATNT2 (Integrated), GeForce 256, GeForce DDR,
Quadro, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 GTS (rev 1), GeForce2 ultra,
Quadro 2 Pro, GeForce2 MX, GeForce2 MX DDR, Quadro 2 MXR,
GeForce 2 Go, GeForce3, GeForce3 (rev 1), GeForce3 (rev 2),
GeForce3 (rev 3)
Look closely... you vid card is not supported by your current driver.

Solution:
- Upgrade your drivers. Nvidia provides them directly from their web site. ( http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html )

To be able to get this drivers installed you NEED to install the kernel-headers pakage for the same kernel version you got running.

To find out kernel version:
~$ uname -a

getting headers pakage (Debian way):
~$ apt-cache search kernel-headers
# apt-get install kernel-headers.x.x.x
~$ cd /usr/src
/usr/src ~$ tar -jxf kernel-headers.x.x.x

now you can proceed to install the nVidia drivers


Work-arround:

# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
- select the 'VESA' driver
- enjoy your shiny GUI

PS.
the simbols '~$' means the comman line as regular user
the simbol '#' means the command line as root
 
Old 04-20-2004, 02:52 PM   #24
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I, burned my nvidia driver on a cd to install my nvidia driver, i thought i didn't need to install those headers because i didn't had to do that with my mandrake.But you where right.
But the problem is, i don't have an internet connection on my debian(neither on my mandrake).
So how can i update my kernel on my mandrake(i hope it isn't bigger then 1.44 mb because then i need to write another cd).

Last edited by hylke; 04-20-2004 at 02:56 PM.
 
Old 04-20-2004, 03:49 PM   #25
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No idea about the RPM's you might use, but kernel source tarball is about 30 MB.
 
Old 04-20-2004, 03:52 PM   #26
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Quote:
Originally posted by mandeltuete
No idea about the RPM's you might use, but kernel source tarball is about 30 MB.
If i have downloaded the source, how do i compile the source?
Using the g++ compiler or something?
 
Old 04-20-2004, 05:17 PM   #27
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you dont need the source tar ball (unless i am mistaken)
What you need is the headers package. The headers package if for precompiled kernels (like the ones used in fresh installs).

From WinXP (if that is your case) go to debian.org in the package section search for the corresponding headers package. Burn it.
Then on debian you mount your CD. move to it. and type:
~cdrom# dpkg -i kernel-headers.x.x.x
~$ cd /usr/src
you will see the tar ball for the headers there
 
Old 04-20-2004, 06:49 PM   #28
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Ayyyy! I got the problem solved!

Here is what I did. I learned that the "no screens found" error simply means that a good combination of hardware settings could not be found. So I checked out the XF86Config and XF86Config-4 files. I knew I wanted my moniter and desktop to run at 1600x1200, so I edited it (see code below). I then went into XF86Config and chose a moniter setting that I wanted to use. I copied all the information about it, and put it into XF86Config-4 as the only moniter setting available (note that the setting here must match with the setting listed in the "screen" section). See the code below to make sense of all this:

XF86Config
-----------------------
# File generated by XFdrake.

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
FontPath "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
#DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work
#DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
EndSection

Section "Keyboard"
Protocol "Standard"
XkbModel "pc105"
XkbLayout "en_US"
XkbOptions ""
EndSection

Section "Pointer"
Protocol "IMPS/2"
Device "/dev/mouse"
ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "monitor1"

# Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
# 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x480" 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync

# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630

# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616

# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.

# 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
ModeLine "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450

# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
ModeLine "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525

# 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625

# 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace

# 640x400 @ 85 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync
ModeLine "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -HSync +VSync

# 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -HSync -VSync

# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync

# 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
ModeLine "640x480" 36 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -HSync -VSync

# 1152x864 @ 89 Hz interlaced, 44 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1152x864" 65 1152 1168 1384 1480 864 865 875 985 Interlace

# 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync

# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync

# 640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync
ModeLine "640x480" 45.8 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -HSync -VSync

# 1152x864 @ 60 Hz, 53.5 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1152x864" 89.9 1152 1216 1472 1680 864 868 876 892 -HSync -VSync

# 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600" 60.75 800 864 928 1088 600 616 621 657 -HSync -VSync

# 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync

# 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace

# 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -HSync -VSync

# 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823

# 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1152x864" 92 1152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895

# 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054

# 1400x1050 @ 60 Hz, 65.5 kHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 122.0 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1052 1064 1082 +HSync +VSync

# 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x768" 98.9 1024 1056 1216 1408 768 782 788 822 -HSync -VSync

# 1152x864 @ 78 Hz, 70.8 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1152x864" 110 1152 1240 1324 1552 864 864 876 908

# 1280x1024 @ 70 Hz, 74.59 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1280x1024" 126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696 1024 1032 1040 1068 -HSync -VSync
# !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
# THIS IS THE SETTING I USED
# 1600x1200 @ 60Hz, 75.00 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1600x1200" 162 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync

# 1152x864 @ 84 Hz, 76.0 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1152x864" 135 1152 1464 1592 1776 864 864 876 908

# 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz, 79.98 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1280x1024" 135 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +HSync +VSync

# 1024x768 @ 100Hz, 80.21 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x768" 115.5 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802 -HSync -VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 75 Hz, 82.2 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1400x1050" 155.8 1400 1464 1784 1912 1050 1052 1064 1090 +HSync +VSync

# 1600x1200 @ 70 Hz, 87.50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1600x1200" 189 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 -HSync -VSync

# 1152x864 @ 100 Hz, 89.62 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1152x864" 137.65 1152 1184 1312 1536 864 866 885 902 -HSync -VSync

# 1280x1024 @ 85 Hz, 91.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +HSync +VSync

# 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz, 93.75 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync
#TESTING--------FAILED---------------------------------------------------------------------
ModeLine "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 -HSync -VSync

# 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 105.77 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1600x1200" 220 1600 1616 1808 2080 1200 1204 1207 1244 +HSync +VSync

# 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 106.3 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1600x1200" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync

# 1280x1024 @ 100 Hz, 107.16 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1280x1024" 181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696 1024 1031 1046 1072 -HSync -VSync

# 1800x1440 @ 64Hz, 96.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1800X1440" 230 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync

# 1800x1440 @ 70Hz, 104.52 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1800X1440" 250 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync

# 1920x1440 @ 60 Hz, 90.0 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1920x1440" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -HSync +VSync

# 1920x1440 @ 75 Hz, 112.5kHz hsync
ModeLine "1920x1440" 297.0 1920 2064 2288 2640 1440 1441 1444 1500 -HSync +VSync

# 512x384 @ 78 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "512x384" 20.160 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync

# 512x384 @ 85 Hz, 34.38 kHz hsync
ModeLine "512x384" 22 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync

# Low-res Doublescan modes
# If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed'
# resolution like 320x400.

# 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
ModeLine "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan

# 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
ModeLine "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan

# 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
ModeLine "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan

# 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 302 312 Doublescan

# 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
ModeLine "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan

# 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
ModeLine "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan

# 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan

# 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
ModeLine "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan

# 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan

# 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
ModeLine "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan
EndSection

-----------------------

XF86Config-4
----------------------
# File generated by XFdrake.

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
FontPath "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
#DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
#DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
Load "extmod"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx" # 3D layer
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "en_US"
Option "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "monitor1"
VendorName "Plug'n Play"
HorizSync 30-100
VertRefresh 50-160

# Testing------------------------------------
ModeLine "1600x1200" 162 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 -HSync -VSync

ModeLine "1600x1200" 162 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +Hsync +VSync

EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "device1"
VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic)"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "screen1"
Device "device1"
Monitor "monitor1"
DefaultColorDepth 24

Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Virtual 1600 1200
Modes "1600x1200"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 15
Virtual 1600 1200
Modes "1600x1200"
EndSubsection
# EDITED--------------------------------
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Virtual 1600 1200
Modes "1600x1200"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Virtual 1600 1200
Modes "1600x1200"
EndSubsection
# END EDIT---------------------------------
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "layout1"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
Screen "screen1"
EndSection
----------------------------------

Notice I forced the screen to ONLY run in the mode I wanted by only listing those possible options.

I hope this helps you out hylke!
 
Old 04-21-2004, 11:23 AM   #29
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I know it sounds stupid, but which from all those kernel things from http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/ do i need to download?
If this doesn't work i'il try Gamesace way because i don't fully understand it :-D
 
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ok, i found a header, but it gave some errors.Is it because i installed the wrong headers?
Here's a list of packages: http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/
Somewhere out there, there are some headers.But wich one do i need?
thanx Hylke
 
  


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