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Old 11-20-2003, 04:18 PM   #1
rsheridan6
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SBC DSL doesn't support linux - any solution?


I used to use pppoe to access sbc dsl, and it worked fine, but when I moved I couldn't get on anymore. You have to re-register when you move and you need the Windows only software to do that - pppoe won't do it. I no longer have a windows cd or partition available. So do I have to give into the beast of Redmond, or is there a way around this problem? Apologies if this is easily answered by google, but I can't get online now except for a few minutes here and there on other peoples' computers.
 
Old 11-20-2003, 04:49 PM   #2
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Found a couple of quick hits at google. You might also search on yahoo DSL since yahoo offers DSL through SBC.

http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-l...-Sep/3373.html
Try setting Linux up to get a DHCP
connect to see what happens. It maybe that you don't even need pppoe.

http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/ind...showtopic=4482
Try RP-PPOE Rorrign Penguins internet connection tool its great seach for "RP-PPOE" on google. I used it and i got SBC DSL

http://linux.usc.edu/pipermail/usclu...il/002390.html
Install the rp-pppoe package, run 'adsl-setup', answer the questions,
run 'adsl-start' and 'adsl-stop' to start/stop the link.

Yes, following the last link's usergroup discussion, rp-ppoe is the ticket.

R.O.
 
Old 11-27-2003, 08:44 PM   #3
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follow-up: I ended up pirating Windows after all in order to get past the registration, but now I'm back on linux.

For the benefit of someone else searching for the answer to the same problem a year from now, possibly myself next time I move, it looks like this is the answer: (from http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8346 )



Quote:
Or, avoid the SBC/Yahoo Software Menace, and do it manually using the following as the PPPoE login:

Username: sbcyahooreg@sbcglobal.net
Password: sbcyahooreg

Then go to the following URL to complete registration: https://sbcreg.sbcglobal.net/
When you get to the page with your username and password confirmation print it.......
You are done with the "SBC" part of the registration.
This username and password is what you input in the PPPoE software or your router to get a DSL internet connection (Dialup too).
It's also your email address and password and its the primary/owner's account.

Now you need to complete the "Yahoo(email)" part of the registration.

Go to this URL sbc.yahoo.com
Login on this page with your username: xxx@sbcglobal.net and password
Complete the "marketing preferences" to activate the account.

The "My Account" link on your home page is for viewing , editing and creating Sub Accounts.

After creating sub accounts you must login at sbc.yahoo.com
with the sub account username/password to complete the "marketing preferences" to activate the sub account and setup the personal page for the sub account.

If you are an existing customer, that is NOT the address you should use to migrate. See this FAQ Section 5.2 Migrating to Yahoo!DSL: for instructions on how to migrate.
 
Old 12-19-2003, 11:47 PM   #4
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I have to admit I feel stupid, because I've read this thread ten thousand times.

I started with SuSE 8.2 LiveCD, and my DSL worked with that. Then, I installed 9.0 and it didn't work. Then I reinstalled it and it did. And then, for reasons beyond my flippin' stupidity, I reinstalled it again, and it didn't work.

I've tried switching distros a few times, but they've all had problems (RedHat couldn't read my Windows partition and people hate it, MDK couldn't play audio, Knoppix wouldn't install very easily, Debian had trouble with my ADSL for a while, etc). I figured I basically need to get this one working, because SuSE 9.0, from what I've heard, is the most complete Operating System.

I use SBC DSL which connects automatically with RedHat, Mandrake, Knoppix, and god-forbidden Windows, so I'd guess there's no complicated passwords. My strategy now is to go into the 8.2 LiveCD and look at the settings - see what's different. What I need to know is what to look for and what I should take note of.

Otherwise, how would I connect through a DHCP?
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:45 AM   #5
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You guys should use Speakeasy.net DSL. They're "server friendly" (i.e. they don't filter ports) and if you're in a Covad or MCI area, you can generally get very good bandwidth, although if you're in an SBC-only area you're max upstream will be capped at 384k. Those #*$@#ing SBC execs, grrr...

Speakeasy doesn't require that you use any weird sign-up pages or anything like that. They just give you a bridged DSL router in most cases and wheee, there you go.
 
Old 12-20-2003, 07:01 AM   #6
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I just bought SuSE 9 and it controls my SBC DSL. Placed my username and password into Control Center > YAST2 Modules > Network Devices > DSL.

TIP: Make sure KInternet has connection timeout 0 and auto reconnect at login.

TIP: Do not check `Activate Firewall` if you want to share this connection, "SuSE Personal Firewall" gets started and jacks with sharing, they use different scripts.

Share this connection through a second network card with Control Center > YAST2 Modules > Firewall. It sets up the "SuSEfirewall2" scripts (in /etc/init.d) to go on at boot according to your specifications, they use IP-TABLES.

Flip Control Center > Network Services > Routing to the second network card's IP & Voila!


Check it out, you can auto-login KDE under Control Center >System Administration > Login Manager, and everytime you power up, you're connected with SBC.

All this and all I did was the basic FTP install for 9, cool.

TIP: Set the first (running ppp0) network card's IP to a static, private address not related to your intertnal network: if 10.xxx is inside, set this to 192.168.x.x; vice-versa. This helps startup faster so it doesn't have to look for DHCP out there.
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:14 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by chort
You guys should use Speakeasy.net DSL. They're "server friendly" (i.e. they don't filter ports) and if you're in a Covad or MCI area, you can generally get very good bandwidth, although if you're in an SBC-only area you're max upstream will be capped at 384k. Those #*$@#ing SBC execs, grrr...

Speakeasy doesn't require that you use any weird sign-up pages or anything like that. They just give you a bridged DSL router in most cases and wheee, there you go.
It's my mom paying for the DSL, and she doesn't want to pay $100 for a technician to come over or to switch companies. I appriciate the suggestion, though.

Quote:
Originally posted by number9
I just bought SuSE 9 and it controls my SBC DSL. Placed my username and password into Control Center > YAST2 Modules > Network Devices > DSL.

TIP: Make sure KInternet has connection timeout 0 and auto reconnect at login.

TIP: Do not check `Activate Firewall` if you want to share this connection, "SuSE Personal Firewall" gets started and jacks with sharing, they use different scripts.

Share this connection through a second network card with Control Center > YAST2 Modules > Firewall. It sets up the "SuSEfirewall2" scripts (in /etc/init.d) to go on at boot according to your specifications, they use IP-TABLES.

Flip Control Center > Network Services > Routing to the second network card's IP & Voila!


Check it out, you can auto-login KDE under Control Center >System Administration > Login Manager, and everytime you power up, you're connected with SBC.

All this and all I did was the basic FTP install for 9, cool.

TIP: Set the first (running ppp0) network card's IP to a static, private address not related to your intertnal network: if 10.xxx is inside, set this to 192.168.x.x; vice-versa. This helps startup faster so it doesn't have to look for DHCP out there.
I will save this page, reboot in SuSE, and check those out. Thanks to you too.
 
Old 12-20-2003, 06:55 PM   #8
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BTW Speakeasy.net has self-install kits. Since it's a bridged connection, there's really nothing to do besides plug it in. I can understand if you don't want to cancle a contract, though. Those term contracts with early termination fees are really annoying
 
Old 12-20-2003, 10:13 PM   #9
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I hate to say this, but I feel ready to switch distros.. again.

What's up with SuSE 9.0 not detecting the DSL automatically like 8.2 did? I just don't get it.. and every other distro's worked with my DSL, it's just that 9.0 for some reason doesn't. I don't have a username or password, so I typed in 0001 for my username and no password. In that case, should any program have to ask for my username or password at all? If Winblows, and for that matter, any other Linux distro, automatically sets up my PPPoE, why can't SuSE 9.0 pro?

EDIT: number9, I've tried that, changed my ISP name to SBC DSL but it didn't.. work. I appriciate your willingness to help, and you might be among my only hope(s) as you have both the same OS, Provider, and you don't speak in an annoying cyber lingo . Is there anything else you would suggest?

Last edited by restin256; 12-21-2003 at 04:45 AM.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 02:51 PM   #10
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@restin256
You should try to figure thing out rather than reinstalling [if you have the patience] as you will learn more.
I presume that it is asking for your sbc userid [email address] and pwd to connect with [?].

I also noticed that you cannot register/upgrade with any browser other than ie [have not tried linux netscape] - the best solution [rather than reinstall!] is to call tech support and ask them to manually register/merge your account. Make sure you agree on the spelling of the uid if you are a new user, it sucks to have them spell it wrong.

Also here is a handy link for you or others - here you can find:

()EnterNet 100v1.300.000 (Linux) [pppoe connection software]
()Installation Guides
()Other drivers etc

url: download.pacbell.net
generic login: dslreguser
generic pwd: reguser
[or you can also use your own email addy and pwd to login]


I do not know what the linux version of EnterNet is like [windows is not too great] but I hope this helps. nb: Check and see if RAS do a linux version.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 03:19 PM   #11
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I don't know if this is still live, and I don't use suse, but did you try running pppoeconf ? (from the command line). That's how Knoppix sets up your connection. Assuming, of course, that Suse is setting up your ethernet card correctly.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 05:40 PM   #12
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As it turns out, I ended up going to YaST Modules and to Networking, then to DSL. I told eth0 to connect via an automatic DHCP..

I'm sorry if it was really easy, and for the first time I've banged my head against a wall and told myself to RTFM for once. I appriciate everyone coming and trying to help me without losing their patience



(I bet that's used in just about every thread)
 
  


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