yes i realise the risks of having an open smtp but this was the way that I wanted to ensure that it wasnt THAT setting that was causing the problems
when i telnet i get this:
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
and i still get the same errors after a reboot that i did before with:
ps -efl | grep "service errors" | grep -v grep
anything else you can think of?
I previously had NO firewall on but now i have put one on allowing the needed ports still the same thing im affraid