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Old 10-24-2009, 11:05 AM   #1
darkhorsexpress
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New to Networks. how to connect old dell laptop[slack12] to new x86-64 Fedora desktop


i have absoluteley no knowledge of networks and very little about Linux. im looking for guides that someone very new can follow. i have a new acer aspire desktop, amd athalon 64x2, with alot of goodies. i also have an older dell(it was free) latitude c610. i have got slackware 12 installed on the laptop but cant get X to work. different issue. i would like to be able to connect the dell to my desktop so it has LAN access i be able to get on the internet. i am trying to learn this so i can eventually set up a home server and connect to it from where ever i might be. any pointers in the right direction for easy to understand info is very much appreciated.
 
Old 10-24-2009, 11:20 AM   #2
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If you have a NAT router, then you don't need to go through your desktop. If not, then you need to configure NAT on the desktop so that you can share your internet IP address. You haven't indicated which distro you have running on your desktop. If the desktop is also running a DHCP server, it will configure your laptop's settings for you. Otherwise you need to manually configure the IP and netmask settings on the laptop, and copy the DNS settings from your desktop to your laptop. You need to set your laptop's default gateway to the LAN side nic interface of the desktop.

If you only have one nic device on your desktop, then pick up a NAT router. They are cheap, and provide you a first line of defense by dropping unforwarded ports.

There is a Network Administrator's Guide (nag.pdf) on the www.tldp.org website that can give you a background in networking. Explore your distro's configuration tools. There may be a checkbox to enable forwarding & NAT on your distro's network device configuration GUI program, which may do most or all of the work for you.
 
Old 10-24-2009, 12:52 PM   #3
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im running Fedora 11 x86-94. i didnt understand most of what you said, but it gives me terms to look up

BTW im in Beulah, ND
 
Old 10-25-2009, 05:34 AM   #4
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For starters, you might provide information about your desktop. Does it have two nic devices? One for the internet connection and the other to connect to the laptop. Or will you use wireless for the LAN?

By the way, have you had any moose in the area this year? A number of the herd spotted by Williston (in the Spring) have been seen around Belfield & Fairfield of all places.

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Old 10-25-2009, 04:49 PM   #5
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i havent seen any, but ive unfortunatly been unable to take many rides over that way. but i start a new job mon. maybe ill have more time to wander with my binos.

im not sure about NICs. i would assume 1.

i wouuld like a wired connection.(no wireless router). my end goal is to have this computer be availible to me over the internet from anywhere, but i want to learn a simple 2 box network for now(be able to access files on this box from the laptop).
if there is a search i can run let me know.

this is really the only one i know
[john@darkhorse ~]$ lspci
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SMBus (rev a1)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Co-Processor (rev a2)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a1)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a1)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a1)
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a1)
00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] IDE (rev a1)
00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge (rev a1)
00:09.0 SATA controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] AHCI Controller (rev a2)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP77 Ethernet (rev a2)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:12.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:13.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge (rev a1)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8200 (rev a2)
04:00.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems Device 0630 (rev 01)
05:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. Device 3403

im still working on just getting the laptop running. havent got X to work yet. been doing lots of reading on the slackware page. mostly im looking to have the 2 computers connected in some meaningful way. then figure the internet out. this is mostly i learning see-if-i-can-do-it thing.

i've got slackware 13 downloaded but the cd drive in the laptop is inop. so id like to get it on the laptop with a network install. way ahead of myself i know but ive got the time(working on the patience part).

thanks for the link. i saved several pdfs from that site to read.

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Old 10-26-2009, 10:10 PM   #6
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If your desktop has only one NIC device, I would recommend getting a Cable/DSL NAT router. One would cost only a little more than a second NIC card. You can opt to forward certain ports to one of the hosts as well. For accessing the computer from somewhere on the internet, look at using SSH. You can use a higher number ports and then forward them to port 22 on you desktop or laptop. E.G. port 2000 -> desktop's IP port 22, port 2001 -> laptop's IP port 22. Using a NAT router, you will save yourself a lot of work and not have to spend as much time configuring masquerading.

On my home network, I have a Desktop, Laptop, printer and a drive on the network. I found it handy to enter the MAC & IP addresses in the router's DHCP server so that I can use DHCP but have fixed addresses which I enter in each computer's /etc/hosts file.

I did install SuSE linux to a Mac G4, which also had a flakey DVD drive. It would have read errors on every DVD I burned so I burned a small net install image which it could boot to and ran a net install. Look on the Slackware website. Most distro's give several options for installing. One option to look at is to boot to USB. Many installers will allow you to use an ISO image on a samba or NFS share. You just need to get it to boot.

As to the NVideo setup. The propriety driver available on the nvidia website is a good option. You do need the kernel source & kernel syms packages installed as well as the gcc compiler. It also supplies two programs: nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings. The former will write an initial /etc/xorg.conf for you. The second is a graphical program which is just like their windows program. It makes it easy to change resolutions, gamma settings, or configure xorg.conf for a second monitor.

Good Luck!
 
Old 10-27-2009, 06:46 PM   #7
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you talking about something like this, or do you have better suggestions?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...TCjCVqHCjCdwwp
 
Old 10-29-2009, 06:30 AM   #8
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I don't think so. That looks like a VPN device to connect two sites. I was thinking of a Linksys NAT router. There are some NAT routers that also have VPN support. I assume you want to access the internet from your home, not simply join your LAN to a remote LAN with a similar VPN device.
 
  


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