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Old 07-17-2002, 11:21 AM   #1
macdudelx
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Question KMail configuration with NT4.0 Mail Server...Possible???


Here's the scenerio. Mail server is running on NT 4.0. I'm at work trying to configure KMail to send/receive mail from and through our mail server. The Mail Server is running M$ Exchange for the mail service. I know how and have setup the mail configuration on the windoze machines here but linux is a different story. I need help bad. Internet mail is no prob, it's just linking through my local mailer that is a prob. If you need more info please don't hestitate to ask. Also, am I heading the down the right path? As to using KMail, or should I be using Evolution or some other Mail Prog? Thanks Everyone!
 
Old 07-17-2002, 01:31 PM   #2
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A few suggestions.

1) Please write your question in spell-checked parseable English with approximately correct punctuation. If I have to decode your question, I'm unlikely to want to answer it.

2) Windows is spelt "Windows". Spelling it otherwise makes you look like an idiot.

3) Paragraphs are important.

4) " linking through my local mailer that is a prob"

Why is it a problem? What did you do? What was the error message you got? What settings did you use?

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Old 07-17-2002, 02:09 PM   #3
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I'm looking for help and guidance with mail configuration and networking; not for an English 101 lesson. Also, if I offended any "Windows'" user by spelling it incorrectly. My bad!! I didn't realize that I was being monitored by Billy's blackops agents...Anyhow,

1.) Which mail "program" (KMAIL, PINE, Evolution, etc?) should I use to connect to my NT Mail Server?

2.) Should I use IMAP or a different protocol to connect to the Mail Server? e.g. In M$ Outlook I would use M$ Exchange to connect to "NXEMAIL" which is the name of the mail service.

3.) I don't even know if this is possible, but I'm certain that there has to be a way. We ARE using Linux!

Thanks again for checking out my post.
 
Old 07-17-2002, 02:41 PM   #4
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In order

1) Whichever suits you best and supports the mail protocol used. If my "NT mail" you mean Exchange then that supports POP3 and IMAP clients just fine. Evolution is a pretty good IMAP and POP3 client.

If by "NT Mail" you mean the original pre-Exchange mail system, forget it. Nothing will talk to it these days.

2) See 1.

Why do you need NT mail at all?

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Old 07-17-2002, 03:09 PM   #5
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Thanks for taking the time to help us noobs out! Now that I look over my previous post and after diving into Evolution a bit, I believe I can get it to work but with a newer version of Evolution (The version I'm running now is 1.03-6 which came with my Downloads of Redhat 7.3).

The NT business is that's our Mail Server here at work, and we're using Exchange as the service. So I would need to connect to the Exchange server to receive my work mail; internally or incoming from the net.

I found some good links to Evolution FAQs and HowTo's. What's funny and odd is that the FAQs HowTo is basically the same setup as Outlook. All you have to do is select Exchange server during the configuration process from the list, but here comes the odd part. I don't have an Exchange server option to select! All I have is IMAP, Local, POP, and a couple of other ones; but not
Exhcange!!! Grrrrrrrrrr.

In anycase I have a bit of work before I get this going. I'll be back if I can't figure it out. Thanks again.
 
Old 07-17-2002, 04:35 PM   #6
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As I said, Exchange supports both IMAP and POP3 clients acceptably well. All you need to do from Evolution's point of view is provide it with the IP, username and password for the mail account.

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Old 07-19-2002, 03:38 PM   #7
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Exchange

Where I work, we use Exchange. There is a guy that gets his mail at home using Outlook Express. He had to be set up using IMAP.

One question: Why are you using Exchange if you don't use all the extra's and such (it is expensive). If you are just interested in email and that's it, why not use Sendmail, Qmail, etc.... If you want to have calenders and such, run IMAP or POP3 and use TWIG. TWIG (it's free) is a webmail app that has all the bells and whistles. You can get it at http://twig.screwdriver.net.
 
Old 07-19-2002, 09:01 PM   #8
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The reason why we use exchange rather than any of the ones you suggested is because I'm not the Network Admin!

I've tried using both POP3 and IMAP protocols with KMAIL, Evolution and a 3rd mailer (but I forgot the name of it), but with no success so far. I plug in the Exchange IP address 192.168.1.12, but still get some errors. Here's the problem.

1) When I try to check my mail I have to enter a user login, which is my last name first and the first letter of my first name (ie. doej), and a password; but I don't have an exchange password. On the Windows machine you log onto our network with your nt login/pass but with exchange there are no passwords set on the server side. No need to because each employee's data.pst (outlook's file cabinet like file) is setup and linked with your NT login.

In short, when you log onto the network that's it for passwords. Your local Network and shared files and disk are there for your access without entering anymore passwords, unless you wander were you shouldn't be wandering.

2) The errors I'm encountering are "password doesn't match user name, please check to make sure the password is entered correctly" when I type in my mail box name and try to use my Network password.

or

I get a "there are no mail boxes with that user name" when I try my Network login/password. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I've tried entering my mail box name and no password provided, but I get the password error.

Tangle, you mention that your friend accesses his exchange mail from home through Outlook using IMAP, but I'm trying to access my mail on our network at work internally not externally (aka the net). Could this be the problem? Because I'm trying to use a web base protocol (pop3 and imap) while I should be using and internal network protocol (exchange)? I don't know. I'm still trying.

Thanks Everyone for listening/reading and responding!
 
Old 09-12-2002, 12:59 PM   #9
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Hi macdudelx,

I have discovered the same problem and would also like to see if anybody out there has solved it for this mail package. Possibly the answer is the evolution package. I have not tried that. Basically, you appear to be on the correct track.

NT/exchange is linked to you domain account so when you login to windows your credentials are not required for normal exchange access. I have configured many mail clients for use with exchange under both POP and IMAP so there may be some settings you are using wrong. Possibly the list of hints below will assist you.

Also, IMAP and POP are NOT web protocols so that is NOT your problem (these are older than the "web" concept). These protocols are TCP/IP protocols and can be used on any such network. Technically, HTTP is the main web protocol but you can still use that on your internal network.

Exchange credentials:
- account name for direct exchange access is called "alias". This is typically firstname_lastname but you can find yourself in the exchange directory and look at your properties and find the alias box. This is what links your mailbox to your NT account for login purposes.
- The user name for your credentials is the tricky part and depends on the mail client deign. It can be any of the following and I know the use of the slashes does not make much sense but that is how I have seen it work on various clients

NTlogonDomain\NTusername
NTlogonDomain/NTusername
NTusername

- you always use your NT domain password

I get all the same error messages you get even with using these settings.

BN
 
Old 09-12-2002, 01:17 PM   #10
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Short time since last post but here goes.

I forgot about one extended setting for IMAP NT account authentication method.

NTdomain\NTusername\ExchangeAlias

If you use the above for your user name and your NT Domain password then KMail will work properly with exchange

BN
 
  


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