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njbrain 03-26-2004 12:15 AM

Internet Slower in Linux than Windows
 
I am running Mozilla in Windows and Linux. The internet runs a little bit faster in windows than linux, and I know it should be the other way around. What can I do to fix this?
Noah

LinuxBlackBox 03-26-2004 08:00 AM

What part of the internet seems to be going faster? It is webpages and images, or is it downloads? ..or a combonation of both?

njbrain 03-26-2004 08:52 AM

Downloads faster in Linux, but browsing, especially pages with a lot if images, go faster in windows.
Noah

JoAnywhere 03-26-2004 10:25 AM

Repeat After me..
 
Repeat After Me everybody....
*** THE WWW IS NOT THE INTERNET ***

now, the reason that your browsing experience may be slower leads to a whole different set of questions!!

What versions of windows and linux are you running. What hardware are you running each of the Operating Systems on?

Cheers
Jo

LinuxBlackBox 03-26-2004 12:33 PM

If the images and pages are going slower, it is probably not the internet that is the problem but what you are using to interpet it. How fast is your computer? and what browser are you using?

njbrain 03-26-2004 01:18 PM

As I already said, I am running Mozilla, and I have an Athlon 1.3, 512 SD-Ram, 1 Meg DSL, Slackware/WinXP dual boot.
Noah

Mr_C 03-27-2004 02:23 PM

Re: Repeat After me..
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JoAnywhere
[B]Repeat After Me everybody....
*** THE WWW IS NOT THE INTERNET ***
really? Explain

JoAnywhere 03-27-2004 02:52 PM

Re: Re: Repeat After me..
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr_C
really? Explain
You are joking right?

take a look at this
http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/

To summarize, the internet was the outgrowth of the original arpanet. Although Arpanet has been around for a LONG time, one could argue that it started to become the Internet in the mid 70's. '82 was when TCP/IP became the standard protocol for Arpanet at which point it really starts becoming the internet

From the mid 80's on people are running things like email, games, mailing lists, news groups, search tools, FTP; all sorts of good things

in 1991 CERN releases WWW (largely credited to Tim Berners Lee ).

So, the WWW is just a something (like email, like IRC, like any tool you use over the internet), that just HAPPENS to run over the internet. It is NOT the internet. Now, without doubt - the WWW has largely been the killer app of the internet, but equally, and without question, it is NOT the internet.

My original point was that to say 'the internet is slower under linux because image rendering is slower in my browser' (to paraphrase the original question) is a false statement. it means that image rendering in your browser is slower, not the internet.

A better test would be to go to one of those sites that offers speed tests of your internet connection and run that test in both windows and in linux.

Regards
Jo

Muzzy 03-27-2004 03:47 PM

I had a problem with webpages downloading extremely slowly (sometimes they would just freeze halfway through downlaoding) the first time i tried it. I was running 2 Windows computers and a Linux computer on the same network and only the linux computer was having problems.

It turned out that the problem was because I was using Windows built in Internet Sharing feature, and when i installed a dedicated router, the problem was solved.

Maybe this is your problem?

Muzzy.

LinuxBlackBox 03-28-2004 07:24 PM

Anybody who's having problems with this, let go of mozilla and give Firebird a try. It's just a lightweight version of the mozilla browser. You may see some improvement with it

wkarpeta 04-27-2004 11:30 AM

I'm using Aurox Linux (based on Fedora Core 1), and Windows 2000 Professional, Firebird on both systems. Testing internet speed with numion.org gave me in result that under linux my internet access is about two times slower than under windows. And it really is - both downloads and WWW access are significantly slower.

Anybody can me explain this?

Muzzy 04-27-2004 11:55 AM

Are both computers on the same network?
How are you getting internet acess? Is one of the two computers 'closer' to the internet? Are you running a DHCP server? Which computer is running the server? Did you try turning the Windows computer **off** (not just in screensaver mode) while running the test on Linux?

Was your test really fair??

leckie 04-27-2004 12:10 PM

Well to set the record straight linux will mostly download faster then windows, and windows will display web pages, generally faster then linux.

Why? for the first answer linux has a better network interface then windows allowing faster response time, greater transfer rate.

And for the second windows has better graphics performance then linux, this is measurable with almost every test, except some games which run faster on linux due to AI issues. And the reason windows will always win is the graphics sub system is programmed directly into the kernel using direct hardware calls, and taking advantage of optimization where possible.

And linux well it runs X as more a modified network graphics system.

It is however strange why it makes a difference, but it does. The best test is to fire up IE on mac OSX and safari at the same time and watch every page you visit come up so much faster with safari(safari has less code = less cpu waist).

ohw 04-27-2004 12:24 PM

slow yes
 
I run 5 flavors of Linux. And it is slower in downloading and page loading. The apparent speed varies with the flavor. This is not to hit Linux in anyway. There has to be a way to tweak Linux with MRU, etc stuff which I haven't found out the how and whys yet. If windows is not tweaked in this way, it is slow whether 98SE, 2000, or XP. With windows there is DRTCP for one. In any event my two inflated cents worth is that there is a way to tweak your settings whether dial-up, cable,,, . So tweaker, where fore! art thou?

wkarpeta 04-27-2004 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muzzy
Are both computers on the same network?
How are you getting internet acess? Is one of the two computers 'closer' to the internet? Are you running a DHCP server? Which computer is running the server? Did you try turning the Windows computer **off** (not just in screensaver mode) while running the test on Linux?

Was your test really fair??

It's the same computer (dual boot). I've got internet access from my cable tv vendor. Everything (ip, gateway and DNS) is configured via DHCP server which is not running on my computer. And of course when I'm running Linux my "Windows computer" is off :).


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