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Old 09-13-2006, 06:21 PM   #1
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Wink Finally, a User-Friendly Samba Alternative?


Based on the various issues that everybody is having with Samba (evidenced through the hundreds of Samba questions ) I thought I might clue everybody in on some software from Centeris Corporation called Likewise 2.0. The software was designed with the IT in mind to alleviate some of the issues faced through the hassle of interoperability between Linux and Windows. Centeris is an active contributor to the Samba project and actually employs some of the lead Samba developers including Jerry Carter. There are many features to the Likewise 2.0 software to include DNS, firewalls, file, print, and web server support. This can especially be useful for IT's new to Linux environments (there are also power-user features for the Linux savvy admins who want to use command-line interfaces or SSH sessions to remotely manage Linux servers). I'm very interested in everyone's opinion on the software. Centeris offers a free 30-day trial that is definitely worth the time to look into. Centeris software developers are eager for new input, tell me what you think.

Centeris Likewise 2.0
 
Old 09-14-2006, 10:54 AM   #2
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Here's anotherone http://www.collax.com
 
Old 09-14-2006, 11:01 AM   #3
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I was reading over the Collax page, it seems that it still doesn't fill the gap between Windows and Linux, isn't it apples and oranges? According to the Collax website you have to purchase their special Linux equipped servers, as with Centeris Likewise 2.0 you can use your existing servers. I don't know, but for an administrator with a large workstation (running 2 or more Linux servers) would it really be feasible to replace them?
 
Old 09-15-2006, 04:46 PM   #4
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Has anybody tried it yet?
 
Old 09-16-2006, 10:33 AM   #5
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Has anybody tried it yet?
Give me $349 and I'll try it.
 
Old 09-18-2006, 01:46 PM   #6
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Wink

Hahaha, let's not and say we did...

and you can just get the free 30-day trial.

<---- my 2 cents.
 
Old 09-18-2006, 02:22 PM   #7
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All of the distributions I've used have had a gui tool to configure samba. I think the reason there are so many samba related threads is because the first thing a lot of people want to do when they try linux is share files and access their windows shares over the lan. I don't think the thread count means it's difficult, it just has a much higher linux newbie ratio than other *nix services.
 
Old 09-18-2006, 02:52 PM   #8
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I agree with you, but at the same time I think that it's worthy to note the fact that you're going to have ITs that aren't really Linux savvy and don't have the time to tread down the Samba troubleshooting road that so many admins go down. When you're dealing with a large amount of workstations and/or dealing with a lot of the basic troubleshooting sometimes it's worthy to go with the user-friendly software. I mean, some of the Samba developers are employed at Centeris, so maybe Likewise 2.0 is worth a second glance. Despite X number of thread counts, and yes there are a handful of Linux newbies (myself included) it's pretty sweet that there's software like this to cut out some of the hassle.

Check out the screenshots.
 
Old 09-18-2006, 08:20 PM   #9
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I agree with you, but at the same time I think that it's worthy to note the fact that you're going to have ITs that aren't really Linux savvy and don't have the time to tread down the Samba troubleshooting road that so many admins go down. When you're dealing with a large amount of workstations and/or dealing with a lot of the basic troubleshooting sometimes it's worthy to go with the user-friendly software. I mean, some of the Samba developers are employed at Centeris, so maybe Likewise 2.0 is worth a second glance. Despite X number of thread counts, and yes there are a handful of Linux newbies (myself included) it's pretty sweet that there's software like this to cut out some of the hassle.

Check out the screenshots.
So the easy solution is to pay $349 to solve a SAMBA problem? LOL Seriously, if you just spend 30-45 minutes reading this forum on SAMBA, or the actual SAMBA documentations on their website, then you will understand it. And if someone still isn't able to understand SAMBA, then they should just use the $349 to buy a Windows Server 2003 server license, or pay me $50 and I'll set up SAMBA for them. LOL Plus you would get much more with Windows Server 2003
 
Old 09-18-2006, 08:22 PM   #10
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I agree with you, but at the same time I think that it's worthy to note the fact that you're going to have ITs that aren't really Linux savvy and don't have the time to tread down the Samba troubleshooting road that so many admins go down. When you're dealing with a large amount of workstations and/or dealing with a lot of the basic troubleshooting sometimes it's worthy to go with the user-friendly software. I mean, some of the Samba developers are employed at Centeris, so maybe Likewise 2.0 is worth a second glance. Despite X number of thread counts, and yes there are a handful of Linux newbies (myself included) it's pretty sweet that there's software like this to cut out some of the hassle.

Check out the screenshots.
Yeah, but $349???
 
Old 09-19-2006, 11:04 AM   #11
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When you weigh the pros and cons you see that a. you're getting a quality product b. sometimes forking over the $349 might be worth it, especially if you gauge the amount of hours that it might take an IT to troubleshoot various Samba dilemmas.

I know if I was a CIO and I had the option for one of my IT guys to spend all of his time trying to troubleshoot and figure out Samba or spend the money buying software that does it for you i'd go ahead and tell him to buy the software.

Your thoughts?
 
Old 09-19-2006, 11:20 AM   #12
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I agree with Micro420 - $349 is close to the price that an SME would expect to see on an OS. Big companies just hire whole admins... Layering an invasive third-party system on top of a distro is also potentially risky - this makes me think of CPanel. If Centeris was to make an arrangement with a distro vendor and ship systems with these tools integrated in (Ubuntu server + Centeris ?), then I'd be very interested.
 
Old 09-19-2006, 01:19 PM   #13
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So far the supported Linux OS for this software are Redhat, Suse, CentOS, and Fedora. For the Windows savvy IT with less Linux expertise it seems like a feasible solution.

I was reading this article in Network World and they're partnering with IBM, Microsoft, Novell, and Red Hat. A good read nonetheless.
 
Old 09-20-2006, 07:30 AM   #14
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Going to one of those packages would seem to negate all the reasoning for going to Linux. Why not just buy a windows server and use Active Directory?
 
Old 09-20-2006, 11:22 AM   #15
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Are you serious? I know a LOT of IT's that have at least 1 or 2 Linux servers, not to mention the fact that they don't require licensing... Linux servers can serve different purposes too. Anywho, that last post is irrelevant to the discussion here as to whether you should use just Samba or a developer package, because anyone who uses Samba has a Linux server (or a virtual one).
 
  


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