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Old 09-20-2007, 08:12 PM   #1
DittoAlex
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Unhappy Can't load one specific web site


OS: Debian Etch 4.0r1

Problem: From this machine, cannot load sfa.osu.edu.

Additional information: Site is up and can be accessed from a Ubuntu machine on my network.

A tcpdump shows that the domain name is resolved, the connection is made, and a few packets are transferred back and forth, but then it just idles until browser timeout.

I have tried faking my useragent as IE, thinking the site may have some silly restriction, but it did not help.

Browsers tried are Firefox 2.0.0.6 and elinks 0.11.1-1.2.

Code:
20:59:51.435520 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 41781, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) myhostname.local.53273 > sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www: F, cksum 0x7510 (correct), 1589676898:1589676898(0) ack 1112734155 win 46 <nop,nop,timestamp 68900630 0>
20:59:51.482382 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 106, id 9194, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www > myhostname.local.53273: ., cksum 0x8a81 (correct), 1449:1449(0) ack 1 win 65333 <nop,nop,timestamp 31515646 68900630>
20:59:51.486110 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 106, id 9195, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 1500) sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www > myhostname.local.53273: . 1449:2897(1448) ack 1 win 65333 <nop,nop,timestamp 31515646 68900630>
20:59:51.486144 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 40) myhostname.local.53273 > sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www: R, cksum 0x45b1 (correct), 1589676899:1589676899(0) win 0
20:59:57.981802 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 23930, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 57) myhostname.local.37986 > DD-WRT.domain: [udp sum ok]  65164+ AAAA? sfa.osu.edu. (29)
20:59:58.029654 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 94) DD-WRT.domain > myhostname.local.37986:  65164 q: AAAA? sfa.osu.edu. 1/0/0 sfa.osu.edu. CNAME[|domain]
20:59:58.030049 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 23943, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 57) myhostname.local.37986 > DD-WRT.domain: [udp sum ok]  39644+ A? sfa.osu.edu. (29)
20:59:58.075482 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 110) DD-WRT.domain > myhostname.local.37986:  39644 q: A? sfa.osu.edu. 2/0/0 sfa.osu.edu. CNAME[|domain]
20:59:58.075971 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 61752, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 60) myhostname.local.53274 > sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www: S, cksum 0x4101 (correct), 1640672426:1640672426(0) win 5840 <mss 1460,sackOK,timestamp 68902290 0,nop,wscale 7>
20:59:58.114547 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 107, id 9200, offset 0, flags [none], proto: TCP (6), length: 64) sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www > myhostname.local.53274: S, cksum 0x47f8 (correct), 4014878759:4014878759(0) ack 1640672427 win 16384 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 0 0,nop,nop,sackOK>
20:59:58.114597 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 61753, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) myhostname.local.53274 > sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www: ., cksum 0x66de (correct), 1:1(0) ack 1 win 46 <nop,nop,timestamp 68902300 0>
20:59:58.115135 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 61754, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 254) myhostname.local.53274 > sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www: P 1:203(202) ack 1 win 46 <nop,nop,timestamp 68902300 0>
20:59:58.735695 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 61755, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 254) myhostname.local.53274 > sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www: P 1:203(202) ack 1 win 46 <nop,nop,timestamp 68902455 0>
20:59:58.786679 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 107, id 9208, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www > myhostname.local.53274: ., cksum 0x759e (correct), 2897:2897(0) ack 203 win 65333 <nop,nop,timestamp 31515719 68902290>
21:00:34.109214 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 61756, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) myhostname.local.53274 > sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www: F, cksum 0x42ed (correct), 203:203(0) ack 1 win 46 <nop,nop,timestamp 68911298 0>
21:00:34.147949 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 107, id 9216, offset 0, flags [none], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www > myhostname.local.53274: ., cksum 0x5a4e (correct), 525:525(0) ack 204 win 65333 <nop,nop,timestamp 31516074 68911298>
21:00:34.148927 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 107, id 9217, offset 0, flags [none], proto: TCP (6), length: 576) sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www > myhostname.local.53274: . 525:1049(524) ack 204 win 65333 <nop,nop,timestamp 31516074 68911298>
21:00:34.148947 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 40) myhostname.local.53274 > sfa-web.adm.ohio-state.edu.www: R, cksum 0x2093 (correct), 1640672630:1640672630(0)
 
Old 09-20-2007, 08:20 PM   #2
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Have you tried through a free proxy server?
Just Google 'Free proxy server' and pick from the list. I like 'freetoview.net' for its simplicity.
If it works, I'm not really sure what it proves or disproves, except *maybe* your IP might be blacklisted for some unknown and possibly erronious reason.. It's been known to happen.
Keep us posted
 
Old 09-20-2007, 08:25 PM   #3
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Have you tried through a free proxy server?
Just Google 'Free proxy server' and pick from the list. I like 'freetoview.net' for its simplicity.
If it works, I'm not really sure what it proves or disproves, except *maybe* your IP might be blacklisted for some unknown and possibly erronious reason.. It's been known to happen.
Keep us posted
I'm going through a NAT switch, so the machine on my network which works shares the same WAN IP.
 
Old 09-20-2007, 08:45 PM   #4
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Hmm.. Well, I've never heard of a blacklisted MAC address.. But did you try a proxy anyway? Who knows..
 
Old 09-21-2007, 07:45 PM   #5
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This will get you going...
Code:
$ su -c 'echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling'
To make it permanent:
Code:
$ su -c 'sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 0'
 
Old 09-21-2007, 07:59 PM   #6
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This will get you going...
Code:
$ su -c 'echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling'
To make it permanent:
Code:
$ su -c 'sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 0'
It worked perfectly.

Can you please elaborate on the technical details as to why this worked and how you knew it was the solution?
 
Old 09-21-2007, 08:02 PM   #7
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Hmm.. Well, I've never heard of a blacklisted MAC address.. But did you try a proxy anyway? Who knows..
It wouldn't have been a blacklisted MAC, but strangely enough, it did work through tor+privoxy.

This was before the solution above was used to fix it.
 
Old 09-21-2007, 08:16 PM   #8
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Can you please elaborate on the technical details as to why this worked and how you knew it was the solution?
See this link for the gory details. http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/

Bottom line is that Ohio State apparently uses an aging router that doesn't follow RFC 1323.

I recognized your symptoms from previous experience.
 
Old 09-21-2007, 08:17 PM   #9
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Thank you.
 
Old 09-21-2007, 08:20 PM   #10
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You're quite welcome. Best of luck in school.
 
Old 09-21-2007, 10:03 PM   #11
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Very interesting tidbit re: the old router. Glad I followed up on this! Always something new...
 
Old 10-03-2007, 11:53 PM   #12
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Wow!

I'd just like to say that this just helped me out a lot. I had the very same problem while staying at a hotel this week (Hotel Avante in Mountain View, for anyone else googling the same problem ) and it virtually prevented me from doing anything useful on the Internet. I couldn't even SSH or VNC into the computer that I left at home to deal with this very sort of crisis! But this fix works perfectly, as mentioned.

I should note though that I tried a Windows laptop and it didn't need any special configuration to work. Shouldn't we find that embarrassing?
 
  


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