What's a good, inexpensive way to get started with Android?
 

Hi -

The Android SDK and emulator are all well and good...
... but how do you get to play with a real handset without a 2+ year commitment at $50.00++USD/month?

Any suggestions for "getting started with Android on the cheap"?

TIA :)!

PS:
Has anybody out there had a chance to try Meego yet?

The best answer for this will depend on where you are located, but here (UK) the following cheap-but-not-too-bad phone options are available:

• HTC Wildfire - there is something that might be known as a 'Wildfire II' about to be announced. That might mean that the WF I is about to be discounted.
• Samsung Galaxy Apollo and Europa: I can never remember which is which, but the cheaper one is quite cheap, without being very unpleasant and the more expensive one has the disadvantage that the price is nearly the same as the Wildfire I, which is probably a better-built package, although if all you interested in is the 'phone spec, then its probably closer
• LG Optimus One: cheap, decent, rather old version of Android (update has been suggested...version may be location dependant)
• Alcatel OT-980 (?) cheap, vaguely Palm-pre-format and includes a QWERTY keyboard. Did I say it was cheap?
• ZTE Blade (aka Orange San Francisco); good display, otherwise average-ish, but cheap

I realise while writing this that

• you need to look at what version of Android you are getting and that could vary by geographical area; probably the more up-to-date is better; ideally you'd want to be able to get various versions for the phone that you choose, but it tends only to be the high end phones that get every release (officially), so you probably have to question whether you really need to test on all older versions
• part of the key is getting a pay-as-you-go (rather than contract) phone; I have no idea what the PAYG market is like where you are, but you'll have to check it out, because contracts really do add up over time

owner of HTC Wildfire as phone is excellent and ergonomic. about 300$ here. Yeah i rooted it already:)
used Moblin - redhat like system on rpm... well except GUI it was horror :). I rather optimistic to Maemo OS as i read they implemented full Xorg stack.

Hi -
I was hoping to pay a lot less :(

That's an interesting point. I was assuming I'd use the built-in, "official" OS. I was also assuming that's the best way to learn about the OS, the app environment, and the "general Android culture" (as Google intended them ;))

Am I mistaken about that?

Thanx in advance .. PSM

If you don't need 2G/3G support, you could also get an Archos 28 for less than 100 USD on Amazon.
It's an Android "tablet" with a 2.8" touch screen. Archos also provides a developer kit for Android.

Typing this on sub £100 phone, LG540GT android 2.1. Does everything i need - wifi tethering and ssh. £5 pay as u go top up gets me a month of unlimited inet. not a perfect phone but for a price i dont mind

You can always get a iPhone 4 clone from China.

I picked one up for my gf a while ago, it's called Starphone A3000, priced under $140 online (although I bought it in China even cheaper :). It runs Android 2.2 (or possibly 2.1 with some 2.2 tweaks, can't be sure). It has it's issues, but if cheap is what you want than that's what you'll get. I haven't used it for anything advanced, but my gf's happy with it.

I doubt it can be used for any serious app development, but just for playing around with Android it should be OK.

It's still official os except modified bootloader and installation of official updates(i have to revert to original unpatched rom).I have full access to phone which in dev needs is a +. This is not like WM's eye-candy-rocket custom roms.. This is still good hardware to attach Android sdk debugger and daily use. If only my efforts to run linux kernel on my HTC x7500 where that easy...
PS: according to news nokia is looking forward to drop meego.

Hi, Sunnydrake -

I wasn't aware that Nokia is likely dropping Meego ... quite possibly in favor of Windows Phone 7. We'll know for sure tomorrow (2/11/11):

http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/2011...g-os-decision/

http://kara.allthingsd.com/20110209/...ly-lights-one/

This ex-M$ CEO is some dubious fish... Let's see how this will rollout.. At least nokia Qt/Symbian team is almost dead already. M$ have very fragile ground due to lack of new modern concepts(apps market,socials,interactive services), nokia have somewhat stable consumer fan base that dropping down a little in time(almost first company that i saw provided apps market(N-Gage)).

M$-Nokia update
 

It seems to be official -- from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia#A...ith_Microsoft:

LG optimus
 

Here is the uk on orange I got a free upgrade and went for an optimus running android 2.3
Not the most modern looking phone on the block but a good starter. Give that a try. I am paying £15 a month btw

Android isn't what costs, it's the phone hardware (quite possibly the logo, material choices and the looks rather than the physical construction). If you want a "good-feeling Android device", you're asking for one that (looks good,) feels good and works well, e.g. one with big enough screen for you, large enough battery, large enough memory (RAM, storage) and so on. These cost money, so I doubt if you'll get a fantastic experience of everything for a few bucks. Not to say you coulnd't have a good experience, but I've found that the very cheapest phones just don't do justice to the capabilities of the system. I've had some phones that had quite nice system in them (before these rather dumb "smart" phones), but the overall build was horrible and just didn't last.

You could also ask yourself what you want: if you're after a good working phone, you don't need Android. If you're after all the fancy things Android (or other such systems) can do, you're probably after the expensive phones that have all the bells and whistles to offer. That is, if the emulator isn't enough...

I don't know where you're located...but here in the US, you can find cheap used Android smartphones for pennies on the dollar on Craigslist, which is a free classified ad site. I bought a Droid for $200 and since it has full wifi, I am able to do most everything Android can do on it other than use the phone by activating it (which would require an agreement with Verizon, PagePlus, Cricket, etc). And that was over a year ago, you can probably find Droids for under $100 now.

I don't own an android phone, however I have looked into purchasing an Archos tablet. They seem to be a good deal for the money, especialyl as they are not phones, eg no pay per month fee, and they are just tablets. The current OS they're shipped with is Android 2.2.

However, I feel the one main disadvantage is they don't have the Android store available to them, as they primarily rely on AppsLib for getting their applications. I don't know how that would affect you though.

You can update your Archos device with the Android store application:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2010/11/...-gen8-devices/

features
 

the most important idea is bang for the buck and what you want....
so consider cameras, 3g and resolution....

i personally chioce the nook color great choice one of sharpest picture resolutions out there now pretty cheap and a lot of choices for os lmage and roms great deal at 250.

one point that killd me is to use savey shopper you need a camera....

look this up makes a great selling point, but andrioid is about 2 years off form making a great tablet os....

there trying to carry over a lot of apps from linux and htc phones that dont work....

i think that tablets are a trendy item, but arm tablets/laptop are the future such as ASUS ARM TRANSFORMER / LEVONO IDEAPAD AND TABLET SLIDERS.... not yelling just making a point for u to look up those products on youtube sorry typing on my nook color....

cant put a link or bold text... typing is a bit hard on touch screen there small and my fingers are big bluetooth keyboard is what i need..., at this point android for the nook is not out snd will route it no big deal...


problems are with every os new vocabulary and a bunch of geeks telling u there smarter then u on these android forums....



the instructions on these forums are stupid and hard to follow i guess they heard of a numbering system like step 1, step 2 etc....


miss conceptions about this linux or other linux os's is that they are a complete os out the box ....

sorry to tel this to windows users u have to install additional ssoftware... sory but you can tailor linux to ur needs.... even cnn put out a article yesterday saying the feel u beta tester for these tablets cause some cost 500 bucks and are not complete...

i guess all 100,000 apps should come pre loaded

Look, I'm not sure how to break this to you, but there is a danger that this thread is already deteriorating to the point that it is of zero value to the Original Poster, and of no definable value to anybody else who has similar interests.

The OP's clear interest was in program development for Android and specifically in getting hardware inexpensively to support and give extra confidence to result obtained from an emulator. The OP knows that application that they are writing/intending to write, and it is clear to him, but not to you, whether, eg, a camera (or 3G, or whatever) is key to that application, and without it being key for anything the he wants, it is useless.

This doesn't address any problem that the OP has.

The OP has a history here, and you can easily see that he has a really extensive level of experience with Linux in various forms. It is unclear why you would think that this advice would help him, or anyone in the similar position, on their path to developing Android applications.

Not only impossible, but unhelpful too. No 'phone comes with enough memory to install all of the applications that are available, and it only confuses the issue of development.

Just to summarise; this thread was started for a particular purpose - how to get going in Android development, cheaply - and if you want a thread for personal likes and dislikes about Android or your particular favourite (or least favourite) Android device, it is off-topic here, and you should consider another thread for that, if you think that it is of sufficient general interest.

Good points salasi, any suggestions that a mod can implement? Amongst other things I can split OT posts into their own threads.


paulsm4,

You're the OP, what would you like done, if anything?

Try to get a SDK of a MCU
 

To develop an application running on Android, a SDK for a highend MCU is required.

Can anyone recommend inexpensive Android tablet for development and fun? (hdmi-out is a must, can anyone confirms claims that 3.1+ Android will support only screens with 1280x800 resolution)?