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Originally Posted by future_computer
The apps of IOS are of best quality,
and cheaper than those of Android..
This is nonsense. I have, on a few occasions, searched for an "app" through Google only to find it is free on Android and costs money on iOS. Sometimes there has been a cut-down "lite" version for iOS that is free but on Android the full version was free.
I am sure that some "apps" you want[ed] could be free or cheaper than the Android version on iOS but your statement is far too sweeping to have any merit.
As somebody who has used iOS on a daily basis for a while and who has briefly owned an Android phone I can safely say both are rubbish and counter-productive. It pains me to say it but the current Windows Phone with its live tiles is a much better idea. As for tablets, they're all irritating, infuriating and pointless. When you've a quad-core chip with a fair amount of RAM only allowing one window to be displayed at a time is deliberately brain-dead.
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They mount German motors into metal parts they get from Germany. I am not quite sure if I would count that as "hand built".
Off-topic now. There was a documentary the other day on 7MATE (an Australian TV station for guys) that showed them building one it was hand built. Even the engine was hand built and then dyno tested. Each panel, although pre stamped, was tack welded to the others with a human being actually controlling the welder by hand. all the parts were fitted by hand. I'd consider that a hand built car when the majority of cars nowadays even have robots putting in nuts and bolts.
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I am also not quite sure if in times where robots can assemble cars with millimeter precision a hand built car is a sign of quality.
In the documentary the panel shop staff went over the car and polished it until there was no visible paint imperfections. if they couldn't get an imperfection out the car was striped of paint and repainted and polished again. I don't know of a robot that can do that. I don't know of a robot that can look at leather on a seat or door trim and say "no it's got a hard patch where the cow had an injury lets use another piece instead" but a human can. Quality is in the eye of the beholder, what robot has eyes and can discern aesthetics to the degree a human can? You don't think Bentleys are a quality vehicle that is you choice and, again, I respect that but others do and have good reason to do so.
Now back to our regular iOS vs Android programming.
After having had both recently I do prefer the app store to the play store and iOS and iPhone to Android and their OEM's. Flagship Android phones aren't any less expensive than iPhones so really it comes down to do you like iOS and it's app store? I don't like the design direction that Apple took with iOS and iPhone therefore I don't own one but if they go back to makeing dencent looking perportional phones I'll get another one.
iJunk is not Mac and to argue for or against it like it is a non-starter.
I don't know of a robot that can look at leather on a seat or door trim and say "no it's got a hard patch where the cow had an injury lets use another piece instead" but a human can.
Sure, robots could. Using e.g. backpropagation neural networks (the only model I was able to understand & program)
But robots are robots - the final acceptance criteria is always going to be done by humans, as the target market is for humans (as of 2014).
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Flagship Android phones aren't any less expensive than iPhones so really it comes down to do you like iOS and it's app store?
I agree.
One thing just made me (again) upset: I wanted to login into google.ch to check my webmaster settings and it asked me to enter my mobile phone number "for security purposes". Aaaah, come on! They're like sharks! I don't want that even my kind-of-inofficial searches get matched to my account.
I tried using duckduckgo.com for a few minutes but it's not very good for programmers looking for a specific string => I have no alternative
I think that by now I've been through the entire "smart-phone user life cycle."
First, like everyone in the whole damm world, I was dazzled by Steve Jobs' (RIP ... sigh) announcement of the iPhone-1 and promptly went out to buy one. Six months later, a GPS-enabled version came out and I bought one of those, too, stuffing the first one into my bedside drawer.
Then, I realized that AT&T did not at that time have good cell coverage in the mountain cove where I actually live. So, I switched carriers (big mistake ...) and at the same time switched to an Android phone. I very quickly realized that there really was no functional difference ... in fact, the Android was in many ways far more powerful. However, once again I got suckered into a "two-year contract."
Two years later, disgusted with my carrier and the phone, I went back to AT&T, but not iPhone, and decided not to buy a contract. I bought a no-contract (Android) phone for about $150, and have been using it since.
In lots of ways, it really does come down to "price." I now realize that there's really nothing worth paying for when you sign-up for a credit contract to pay in dribs-and-drabs for "a $700+ phone," when the simple truth is that an equally(!) functional phone can be had for 1/7th of the price. It hits you ... that, all this time, you've been being screwed by a company who sold you something for many times what that something actually cost them, just to reinforce the perception that you were getting "premium goods." Actually, quite frankly, you weren't. The entire market for handheld consumer electronics is by now very mature, and prices are being driven down.
Oddly enough, though, I think that my next phone will be a flip-phone. I'm "opting out" as much as I possibly can from the "big-data surveillance world," which I understand far too completely.
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