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Old 11-08-2011, 02:11 PM   #16
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Hi,

Agree that this is getting off topic.

You are not going to be able to replace iOS with a Gnu/Linux on an a Apple iPad since hardware firmware is locked.
Wrong.
I'm running Ubuntu on my iPad (see the many xda howtos)

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If you feel this is insulting,
The only thing that offended me are you're many links to explain that I'm an idiot.
OS desisign (including all boot methots) is pretty much the only thing I'm good in...

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my apologies.
Accepted.

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Possibly use a emulator like 'Bochs emulator' but why? It would not be the base OS.
No need for an emulator

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Chroot has nothing to do with getting it to run on the iPad, you will not be able to load/boot it because hardware firmware is locked.
The chroot part was for android tabs.
The OP is from belgium, we don't have those silly "don't touch our software" laws.

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Some work being done to 'jailbreak' to use the device as wanted but for now it's a hack, most are using the iPad 1G to hack because it is cheaper. Voids the warranty since hardware must be modified.
This isn't true in Belgium.
It only took me 5 minutes to shape it in the way I like, no hardware mods at all (iOS isn't firmware in an tech way either).




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Enough said!

<mod note>
BTW, since I moved this thread to <Linux-Mobile>, I do get a notice of replies to this thread. So not trolling! Interacting as a LQ member within this thread. No where within this thread have I made <mod> statements or corrections until this note. Nor have I been insulting in any way. Maybe challenge your position or statements but not in a insulting manner.
<end mod note>
Please dont do that, we both know what I meant.
Let's just agree to disagree on on some things.
 
Old 11-08-2011, 07:27 PM   #17
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Hi,
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Originally Posted by jens View Post
Wrong.
I'm running Ubuntu on my iPad (see the many xda howtos)

The only thing that offended me are you're many links to explain that I'm an idiot.
OS desisign (including all boot methots) is pretty much the only thing I'm good in...

Accepted.

No need for an emulator

The chroot part was for android tabs.
The OP is from belgium, we don't have those silly "don't touch our software" laws.

This isn't true in Belgium.
It only took me 5 minutes to shape it in the way I like, no hardware mods at all (iOS isn't firmware in an tech way either).

Please dont do that, we both know what I meant.
Let's just agree to disagree on on some things.
You must be using either RedSnow 0.9.9 or other new hardware firmware for your iPad1 since upgrade to the new iOS 5.0.1 on the iPad is not available other than beta. Newer iOS is allowing the user to modify in a limited sense, at least that's what I read from Apple Inc.. So you can hack your iPad to run 'Ubuntu', I stated earlier that a hack was required for the hardware firmware. This hardware firmware hack does void any warranty by modification of the original hardware firmware. Look at it in the sense that You have replaced the BIOS(Hardware firmware). Simplistic since Apple does use the UEFI protocol for their equipment to control hardware firmware.

BTW, no where did I state physical hardware, you just do not understand that this device(iPad) has the hardware firmware(keys, device drivers, interface configs and other hardware configuration) in place. Easily modified or upgraded legally under warranty via Apple. Your hack had to circumvent the iOS hardware firmware with a patched or linked hardware firmware not the iOS. No where was it stated to replace iOS. iOS uses the hardware firmware to setup/interface with the physical device(s).

No where did I state or imply as you stated:
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'The only thing that offended me are you're many links to explain that I'm an idiot.'.
That is your personal assessment for yourself. No name calling or implication from me. iOS is the operating system, hardware firmware is the device firmware for the iPad. In fact UEFI protocols are used for Apple equipment. For earlier equipment, EFI was the basis for the NeXt hardware firmware. Note, not the OS! You need to provide the hardware firmware (hack) in order to load/boot via the 'jailbreak'. Generally this hardware firmware is just a file stored locally for the hardware firmware.

We do have laws to protect here in the USA as you so noted. Nothing saying a user here in the USA cannot 'HACK' a personal unit to do as they please. My statement about void of warranty stands until Apple Inc. changes warranties.

As I stated before;
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So let me restate: You will not be able to replace iOS on stock iPads with Gnu/Linux without doing hardware firmware modifications.
stands. You had to provide the hardware firmware via a hack in order to get your Ubuntu to work on that iPad1. Glad to hear you were able to get Ubuntu on the iPad1, if that is what you feel fits your needs.

My <mod> note stands for itself as a moderator.

My apologies to the OP for being off topic and carrying things this far.

jens, back on topic. I will stay on topic in this thread henceforth.

<mod note>
jens, please contact me via PM to explain this;
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Please dont do that, we both know what I meant.
I do not know what you have meant or implied in response to the <mod> statement.

This part I can somewhat agree on (notice the single on);
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Let's just agree to disagree on on some things.
<end mod note>

Last edited by onebuck; 11-08-2011 at 07:28 PM. Reason: typo
 
Old 11-10-2011, 05:02 AM   #18
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My apologies to the OP for being off topic and carrying things this far.
Dont, everything can happen when thinkers collide!
I marked it a solved, because my original question was answered:

Is a tablet any good to me?


A tablet needs to run Java Applets, Adroid does'nt like Java, and Linux on a tables does'nt seem feasable. Eh, at least now we all know why OPEN SOURCE works!

The answer:

A tablet is (as things are now) utterly worthless to me.


So I saved some money asking, finding out and ... not buying the thing. Thanks, gang

Thor
 
  


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