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Old 11-05-2011, 03:15 PM   #1
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Bodhi on a tablet, tried that?


Hey!

Okay, some days ago, I asked about android and Java, that sis'nt seem to be a happy match...okay, well, Linux and Java, now that's a great combo, speaking of tablets...anyone ever tried Bodhi on a tablet? Experiences? Good, bad? An other distro on a tablet?

Please share

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Old 11-06-2011, 08:35 AM   #2
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Hi,

I suggest that 'Android Forum' site with Android Tablets: 'This forum is for the discussion of any Android tablet'.
That forum would be the best for this type of question.
 
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:47 AM   #3
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Thanks onebuck...and android is not really what I'm after. The hidden question (and, yes, it is debatable if that is the right place) here is "can Linux be put on a tablet?" - android was totally pushed out of the picture, I need Java, android hates Java...

Perhaps, indeed, a different forum for this one?

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Old 11-06-2011, 10:49 AM   #4
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Hi,

Then possibly Linux - Mobile: 'This forum is for the discussion of all topics relating to Mobile Linux. This includes Android, LiMo, Maemo, MeeGo, LiPS, Moblin, Openmoko, Ubuntu Mobile, Open Mobile Alliance and other similar projects and products.'. I could move your thread to that forum.
 
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:59 AM   #5
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I could move your thread to that forum.
Please do, if it's not too much trouble, and please accept my apologies for posting in the wrong spot

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Old 11-06-2011, 12:06 PM   #6
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Moved: This thread is more suitable in <Linux-Mobile> and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.
 
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Old 11-06-2011, 11:37 PM   #7
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It's being worked on....

Jeff91 is the lead dev at Bodhi Linux and has had an ARM version of Bodhi for a while now....

Here it is on YouTube

The main problem as reported on the Bodhi forums is the diversity of ARM-based hardware and the lack of detailed documentation and drivers for that hardware. Think: lots of proprietary video stuff and more. Hence my focus on the nVidia Tegra SOC family which is both documented (sorta) and supported (sorta) in Linux. My friends at TI say that the OMAP family is intended to be better supported in that regard.

I'm having a go with a Toshiba AC100 (Tegra 250), not made a lot of progress yet, but that's mostly lack of time as well as a shortage of skills... Used to have more skills, iirc. Old age! <sigh>

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Old 11-06-2011, 11:42 PM   #8
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@ Thor, sorry can't seem to edit the previous post. Meant to add a link here with more on ARM and Bodhi.
 
Old 11-07-2011, 01:30 AM   #9
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Hey Flymo!

Thanks for the inside info! Maybe it's just me reacting (wrong?) to the hype that everything is going tablet...so it was a thought.

I dev web based stuff on Java, so hence the look-into-this...

I looked at the video, looks promissing. I'll be watching this space for more

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Old 11-07-2011, 10:50 AM   #10
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"can Linux be put on a tablet?"
So far, I've never seen a tablet that can't run GNU/Linux.

As for "Android tablets", they should be compatible.
If you like Android and only need some dev tools, you could consider a chroot installation (there's an app for debian in the google market).

PS: I'm dual booting (not-chroot) Android and Debian (with OpenJDK) on an Asus Transformer.

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Old 11-07-2011, 11:00 AM   #11
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So far, I've never seen a tablet that can't run GNU/Linux.

As for "Android tablets", they should be compatible.
If you like Android and only need some dev tools, you could consider a chroot installation (there's an app for debian in the google market).

PS: I'm dual booting (not-chroot) Android and Debian (with OpenJDK) on an Asus Transformer.
Ever look at iPad? Look at the iPad wiki.
 
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Old 11-07-2011, 11:17 AM   #12
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Ever look at iPad? Look at the iPad wiki.
I've only used an iPad1 ... and yes, it does run GNU/Linux

Edit: Nothing against either iOS or Android though.
I only added GNU/Linux since I use it as a small netbook replacement.

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Old 11-07-2011, 01:00 PM   #13
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Hi,

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I've only used an iPad1 ... and yes, it does run GNU/Linux

Edit: Nothing against either iOS or Android though.
I only added GNU/Linux since I use it as a small netbook replacement.
Sorry to inform you but the iPad does not run Gnu/Linux.
Quote:
excerpt from iOS;
iOS is derived from Mac OS X, with which it shares the Darwin foundation, and is therefore a Unix-like operating system by nature.
iOS is based on Max OS X;
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excerpt from History;
Mac OS X is based upon the Mach kernel.[13] Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in NeXTSTEP, the core of Mac OS X. NeXTSTEP was the object-oriented operating system developed by Steve Jobs' company NeXT after he left Apple in 1985.[14] While Jobs was away from Apple, Apple tried to create a "next-generation" OS through the Taligent, Copland and Gershwin projects, with little success.[15]
Eventually, NeXT's OS, then called OPENSTEP, was selected to be the basis for Apple's next OS, and Apple purchased NeXT outright.[16] Steve Jobs returned to Apple as interim CEO, and later became CEO, shepherding the transformation of the programmer-friendly OPENSTEP into a system that would be adopted by Apple's primary market of home users and creative professionals. The project was first known as Rhapsody and was later renamed to Mac OS X.[17]
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excerpt from Mac OS X;

Mac OS X, whose X is the Roman numeral for 10 and is a prominent part of its brand identity, is a Unix-based graphical operating system,[8] built on technologies developed at NeXT between the second half of the 1980s and Apple's purchase of the company in late 1996. From its sixth release, Mac OS X v10.5 "Leopard" and onward, every release of Mac OS X gained UNIX 03 certification while running on Intel processors.[3][4]
So iOS is derived from a UNIX-03 compliant/certified OS.

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Old 11-07-2011, 01:44 PM   #14
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Sorry to inform you but the iPad does not run Gnu/Linux.

iOS is based on Max OS X;
So iOS is derived from a UNIX-03 compliant/certified OS.
Your post is insulting (and reported), I've only said it CAN run Linux (post 10).

What part of ADDING GNU/Linux instead of replacing iOS (or Android for the OP) are you failling to understand as well.

Edit: Do you even know what a "chroot install" means (what I recommended in my first post before you went off topic, again)?

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Old 11-07-2011, 04:05 PM   #15
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Hi,

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Originally Posted by jens View Post
Your post is insulting (and reported), I've only said it CAN run Linux (post 10).

What part of ADDING GNU/Linux instead of replacing iOS (or Android for the OP) are you failling to understand as well.

Edit: Do you even know what a "chroot install" means (what I recommended in my first post before you went off topic, again)?
Agree that this is getting off topic.

You are not going to be able to replace iOS with a Gnu/Linux on an a Apple iPad since hardware firmware is locked. If you feel this is insulting, my apologies. Possibly use a emulator like 'Bochs emulator' but why? It would not be the base OS. Chroot has nothing to do with getting it to run on the iPad, you will not be able to load/boot it because hardware firmware is locked.

Some work being done to 'jailbreak' to use the device as wanted but for now it's a hack, most are using the iPad 1G to hack because it is cheaper. Voids the warranty since hardware must be modified.

So let me restate: You will not be able to replace iOS on stock iPads with Gnu/Linux without doing hardware firmware modifications.

So we both are correct in a slim way or semantic sense. You can hardware modify a iPad to run Android, Gnu/Linux with a hardware firmware hack to modify the load/boot capability for the Apple device(s). So if you want to spend close to a $1000 then hack that iPad with possible bricking the device then so be it. You might be able to make the fix/hack but at a Great gamble.

That is why I responded in post 11 to your post 10. iPad is that single device that cannot run alternate OS without hardware firmware modifications via jailbreak the iOS 5firmware.

If you wish to continue this discussion then create a new thread for the topic.

Enough said!

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BTW, since I moved this thread to <Linux-Mobile>, I do get a notice of replies to this thread. So not trolling! Interacting as a LQ member within this thread. No where within this thread have I made <mod> statements or corrections until this note. Nor have I been insulting in any way. Maybe challenge your position or statements but not in a insulting manner.
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