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Old 05-12-2016, 03:21 PM   #46
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Ok, back to the OP.

Anyone interested in OpenSUSE Linux?
 
Old 05-12-2016, 05:07 PM   #47
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If it works, then OpenSuse would be fine.
 
Old 05-12-2016, 05:57 PM   #48
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Thumbs up

Works for the Pi:
https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:Raspberry_Pi (I havent tryed it yet thogh?)
For the Geeksphone I could run a VM.

For me at this point on, I will not buy a device unless it's opensource both hardware and soft. Name:  locked.gif
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Add: something like this is for me: https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena

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Old 06-22-2016, 11:47 PM   #49
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i want 5" x86 hardphone with 3000mah battery and e-ink black and white display that runs a debian based distro with low resource de/wm like icewm with classic bios that i can boot from microsd/usb and wipe without fear of bricking
 
Old 06-22-2016, 11:58 PM   #50
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...shiny thing.
 
Old 06-24-2016, 02:31 PM   #51
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i want 5" x86 hardphone with 3000mah battery and e-ink black and white display that runs a debian based distro with low resource de/wm like icewm with classic bios that i can boot from microsd/usb and wipe without fear of bricking
so basically you want someone to build and program a device tailored to your very specific needs, at consumer prices?
wish for it hard enough, maybe santa will bring it.

otoh, it looks like some older ebook readers might fit your bill.
 
Old 06-25-2016, 02:33 PM   #52
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Why x86?
 
Old 06-25-2016, 06:06 PM   #53
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if android is marketleader wich is basically a glorified phone+camera
imagine what can be accomplished with linux and x86 in your pocket
in fact all mankind computing needs is linux and x86
problem is 90% of smartphone market is just facebook monkeys
 
Old 06-25-2016, 06:53 PM   #54
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imagine what can be accomplished with linux and x86 in your pocket
in fact all mankind computing needs is linux and x86
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The same as on ARM &c. Have you run many "Androids*," I doubt it from your post?

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Old 06-26-2016, 04:58 AM   #55
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i dont know if i run many androids? had a couple of phones myself some mediatek based, an s3 an s5, and couple other samsungs
i have run many roms, and rooting and os installing is not the same on any brand as you probably know
i have to say i feel limited in every aspect by the android ecosystem

first you are very limited in os choice and have to be careful when installing another one, or you can brick your device
and the choices are basically roms based on cyanogenmod, does not boot usb

the terminal, linux's greatest strength is so limited in android with utilities you can count on one hand
busybox, perl, python and few others

even if you get linuxdeploy, apps in the arm repos are fewer than x86 repos, and theres stuff outside the repos, not even made for arm
you can try qemu based, limbo emulator, but speed suffers and its not simple to install

on x86 you can even run stuff from windows with wine, on arm it doesent work, cause wine is not an architecture emulator

android apps are crappy games, and other stuff useless for me

not even big apps are the same, google chrome is not the same
on linux/windows you can disable cors on android you cant, cause not even launching gui apps from terminal works the same

im only saying what i want, its probably not economically viable as far as profits go,
but it amazes me what great lenghts they went to make android unusable as a linux distro, instead of building over it

also arm power efficiency is a myth

now, what roms apps have you used on android that it seems so great to you
in what way does it work for you except facebook, and other superficial time wasting crap
 
Old 06-26-2016, 05:56 AM   #56
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Anything is limited off the bat and furthermore if you don't dig\make***IMO.

+It's all about the right devices and how many "play" on them..? I traded a set of mini speakers for the first ipwn, I then rooted with full on BASH
(was hooked. ) Next got a Geeksphone, that rocks! Since got a Kindle Fire (rummage $10) I rooted (armv71-3.0.72+ GNU\Linux Cyanogenmod,) from where I use many of the same "apps" including: GIMP, F-Droid and GNU Root Debian (CLI & X runs on unrooted devices too...)
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post5564947
also has Minecraft, Battle for Wensworth so on for the nephew, GTA5 so on for me...

My Pi rocks as well!

I will not buy another "computer," just a tablet and maybe keyboard, possibly even mouse for it as they can do anything &c.

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Old 06-26-2016, 07:40 AM   #57
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like i said there is no choice for open source stuff unless specially compiled for linux arm just like on android arm (although you can compile it yourself, not something i would do on a phone)

so less software available
 
Old 06-26-2016, 10:28 AM   #58
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That's the same in GNU\Linux if you want to play the latest games or are forced to use proprietary at school or work?
Accepting it won't play in my book
(and Lucky for us others,) search\make on!
 
Old 06-26-2016, 02:08 PM   #59
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i agree with you on proprietary software and commercial games, i dont like them either
im just saying, even with the latest efforts , arm linux still lags before x86 linux
 
Old 06-26-2016, 02:45 PM   #60
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Arrow

As a DIY guy I'd love to see more like this: https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena
plus: http://diyhacking.com/make-arduino-board-and-bootload/
and in particularly more GPL styled hardware.
 
  


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