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911InsideJob 08-10-2013 11:14 PM

Mint 15 using Ubuntu 12 installer
 
OK, I know when I'm beat. KDE/Qt is slicker than greased lighting... all hail the new world zeitgeist or whatever. So I d/l Mint KDE 15 and it bombed on my EFI laptop right at end of install. I remembered same behavior with Ubuntu 12 so popped Ubuntu 13.04 in and it split the Mint parition in half, installed grub on EFI boot and made an entry for both distros, how nice. :D

If the Mint guys want to get fancy they should borrow Mageia's fork of Mandriva's awesome hard-drake utilities. I believe they're written in Qt too.

Bye bye Gnome, I barely gnew you...

911InsideJob 08-12-2013 04:58 AM

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Looks like I'm running Mint with Ubuntu's kernel though -- which is fine but two different kernels would have been better -- so will need to learn this new grub2 EFI booshiat I suppose.. menu.lst was just too easy, like /dev/dvd and cd device names. I'm glad someone with authority to "push down" changes came along to make it human unreadable. 10-4 roger wilco tango lima. Mindless jargon makes me feel important. :rolleyes:

Oh, I'm trying to attach my Linux Mint KDE 15 screen shot too. ;) Lemme see...

911InsideJob 08-17-2013 08:09 AM

I noticed the 3.8 kernel is a few compile numbers before the one in Ubuntu 13.04 so I guess the core of Mint 15 is Ubuntu 12 not 13, which is fine with me. Ubuntu 12.04 was rock solid and I'd still be using it if the laptop it was installed on didn't overheat. That'll teach me for using it on a beach in Baja California (Mexico.) Best beaches on the planet... south France sux. :o

cascade9 08-17-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911InsideJob (Post 5010887)
I noticed the 3.8 kernel is a few compile numbers before the one in Ubuntu 13.04 so I guess the core of Mint 15 is Ubuntu 12 not 13, which is fine with me.

There is no 'ubuntu 12' or 'ubuntu 13'. Ubuntu releases are always XX.XX (e.g., 12.04)

Mint 15 is ubuntu 13.04 based-

Quote:

Linux Mint 15 is based on Ubuntu 13.04.
http://linuxmint.com/rel_olivia.php

911InsideJob 08-17-2013 08:19 AM

No it's not, as the kernel number proves. It might be based on an alpha or beta of Ubuntu 13 though.

Code:

3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu

cascade9 08-17-2013 08:35 AM

Proves? LOL. Clem and the rest of the Mint developers have no reason to lie. Minor differences in the kernel version number happen. 3.8.0-26 isnt the original 13.04 kernel anyway...

Quote:

Ubuntu 13.04 includes the 3.8.0-19.29 Ubuntu Linux kernel
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes

Still havent got that the releases are XX.XX either.....

911InsideJob 08-17-2013 01:12 PM

Why wouldn't they have Ubuntu 13.05, 13.06, 13.07, 13.08 and 13.09 if these were real version numbers? I'm sure it's not cryptic code to make morons feel smart. There's now way .04 really means "long term stable" and .10 means "testing".

I'm glad Mint 15 is based off Ubuntu 12 instead of Ubuntu 13. The kernels since then have been buggy as hell, that's why i dumped Fedora 19.00.000. :D LOL

911InsideJob 08-17-2013 01:57 PM

Oh, and why would they tell the truth? Will Linus and Stallman show up at their door to write them a ticket? No penalties for lying and you might make money if you do... hmmm, no motive there. Maybe Bin Laden had a bad dream and decided to write an FAQ. That explains it! Larry Silverstein was telling the truth! :o

I'm sure parts of Mint 15 are based on Ubuntu's latest stable release but as the title of this thread implies, the installer definitely isn't one of them. Have you even installed Mint on a UEFI BIOS computer? That's my problem.

TobiSGD 08-17-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911InsideJob (Post 5010997)
Why wouldn't they have Ubuntu 13.05, 13.06, 13.07, 13.08 and 13.09 if these were real version numbers? I'm sure it's not cryptic code to make morons feel smart. There's now way .04 really means "long term stable" and .10 means "testing".

No, it doesn't. The version numbers of Ubuntu reflect the release date, Ubuntu 13.04 (which is not an LTS, the next LTS will be 14.04) was released in April 2013, therefore 13.04, while Ubuntu 13.10 will be released in October 2013. The only way to determine if an Ubuntu release is an LTS is to look if there is actually a LTS in its name.

cascade9 08-18-2013 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911InsideJob (Post 5010997)
I'm glad Mint 15 is based off Ubuntu 12 instead of Ubuntu 13.

Would you like a bulldozer to replace your shovel?

Mint 15 is based on 13.04.

Mint 15 uses kernel 3.8.XX, just like ubuntu 13.04.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/linux
http://linuxmint.com/rel_olivia.php

Mint 14 uses kernel 3.5.XX, just like ubuntu 12.10

http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/linux
http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_nadia_whatsnew.php

Mint 13 uses kernel 3.2.XX, just like ubuntu 12.04

http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux
http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_maya_whatsnew.php

Mint 15 has 9 months support (til January 2014) like 13.04 its based on. Mint 14 has 18 months support (til April 2014) like 12.10 it is based on. Mint 13 has 5 years support (til April 2017 ) like 12.04 its based on.

http://www.linuxmint.com/oldreleases.php
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases


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