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Old 12-10-2012, 01:03 PM   #1
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Question Very strange behavior of graphics in Mint 13 64


Hi, this is my first post in linuxquestions. Before I begin, sorry for my poor english.
I'm using linux have 3 months. My laptop is an Samsung and Linux mint show an strange graphic behavior. Is to hard to explain, so I print the follow images of screen to show what is happening.

the four images are in link:
http://aceleron.net78.net/linuxmint13/issue/

I tried linux mint 13 Mate and XCFE (my actual); Mint 11 Katya gnome and in all the same issue happened with little different color. Other distros what I tried like: Manjaro (arch) and Vector (Slack) nothing strange happened.
I try the follow procedures to solve, but nothing make any effect:
- Disable or enable screen effects
- Update the kernel to 3.6.XX

This problem shows up after an clean install of linux and does not happen all the time, but is very, VERY annoying.

Note: In the kernel 3.2.0-23 I can control brightness of screen using acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor in grub file, but in any another kernel, this command no work and brightness is always max. If I update kernel, the intel drivers are updated but I think that intel drivers is not a cause of this issue.

The laptop graphics is Intel HD Graphics 3000.

SYSTEM INFO:
System: Kernel: 3.2.0-23-generic x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.6.3)
Desktop: Xfce 4.10.0 (Gtk 2.24.10) Distro: Linux Mint 13 Maya
Machine: System: SAMSUNG (portable) product: 300E4A/300E5A/300E7A/3430EA/3530EA version: 0.1
Mobo: SAMSUNG model: 300E4A/300E5A/300E7A/3430EA/3530EA version: FAB1 Bios: Phoenix version: 08QA date: 05/23/2012
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-2310M CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 8381.38
Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz 3: 800.00 MHz 4: 800.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
X.Org: 1.11.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: vesa,fbdev) Resolution: 1366x768@60.1hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 8.0.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.24
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
Card-2: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 100 driver: iwlwifi ver: in-tree: bus-ID: 01:00.0
IF: wlan0 state: down
Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (55.1% used) 1: /dev/sda TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD0 320.1GB 48C
Info: Processes: 151 Uptime: 1:13 Memory: 595.1/1850.3MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.6.3 Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.33

little more about graphics

display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 09
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
resources: irq:44 memory:90000000-903fffff memory:80000000-8fffffff ioport:3000(size=64)

Anyone have any ideas ???????

Last edited by aceleron; 12-15-2012 at 07:27 AM.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 01:27 PM   #2
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Hi,

I would start by looking at logs. Take a look at your Xorg.log or syslog and kern.log. Try to see if there is any clues.
Then I would check for any updated gfx drivers you can get your hands on. Maybe yours are out of date.
Is it just the gfx you are having problems with? Does anything run slow? Are you noticing any lag on opening apps or running apps or multiple apps?

So basically do some looking around your machine. Get familiar with it and you might come across the answers.

I had the same with an old netbook running Ubuntu a long time ago. It turned out to be that damn Unity killing my machine. I found that out by simply running a 'top' in the terminal and seeing how much system process it was consuming. You never know what it is unless you go searching for clues )


Let us know how you get on.

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Old 12-10-2012, 01:47 PM   #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aceleron View Post
Hi, this is my frist post in linuxquestions. Before I begin, sorry for my poor english.
I'm using linux have 3 months. My laptop is an Samsung and Linux mint show an strange graphic behavior. Is to hard to explain, so I print the follow images of screen to show what is happening.

the four images are in link:
http://aceleron.net78.net/linuxmint13/issue/

I tried linux mint 13 Mate and XCFE (my actual); Mint 11 Katya gnome and in all the same issue happened with little different color. Other distros what I tried like: Manjaro (arch) and Vector (Slack) nothing strange happened.
I try the follow procedures to solve, but nothing make any effect:
- Disable or enable screen effects
- Update the kernel to 3.6.XX

This problem shows up after an clean install of linux and does not happen all the time, but is very, VERY annoying.

Note: In the kernel 3.2.0-23 I can control brightness of screen using acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor in grub file, but in any another kernel, this command no work and brightness is always max. If I update kernel, the intel drivers are updated but I think that intel drivers is not a cause of this suck issue.

The laptop graphics is Intel HD Graphics 3000.

SYSTEM INFO:
System: Kernel: 3.2.0-23-generic x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.6.3)
Desktop: Xfce 4.10.0 (Gtk 2.24.10) Distro: Linux Mint 13 Maya
Machine: System: SAMSUNG (portable) product: 300E4A/300E5A/300E7A/3430EA/3530EA version: 0.1
Mobo: SAMSUNG model: 300E4A/300E5A/300E7A/3430EA/3530EA version: FAB1 Bios: Phoenix version: 08QA date: 05/23/2012
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-2310M CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 8381.38
Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz 3: 800.00 MHz 4: 800.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
X.Org: 1.11.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: vesa,fbdev) Resolution: 1366x768@60.1hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 8.0.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.24
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
Card-2: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 100 driver: iwlwifi ver: in-tree: bus-ID: 01:00.0
IF: wlan0 state: down
Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (55.1% used) 1: /dev/sda TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD0 320.1GB 48C
Info: Processes: 151 Uptime: 1:13 Memory: 595.1/1850.3MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.6.3 Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.33

little more about graphics

display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 09
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
resources: irq:44 memory:90000000-903fffff memory:80000000-8fffffff ioport:3000(size=64)

Anyone have any ideas ???????
I see that you have the same card that I do:
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller

And I had to go and get the RT73 driver for it and blacklist the 8169.
After the install of the driver and the blacklist I restarted my system and than it was ok.
Until I did that I had graphics issues. In other-words my graphics would consistently run in low graphics mode.

I went to the Intel website 3 times for you; think they are having server difficulties today as I wasn't able to get to that link for a driver for your Intel HD 3000. I than found this article that mentions the Intel card and the kernel.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/16931...-graphics-card

This was the whole page I used in Google to try to help you:
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&...w=1366&bih=666

HTH
 
Old 12-10-2012, 02:01 PM   #4
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I looked at the four images that you posted in your first link.

I had the exact same thing going on when my distro was Ubuntu Studio 10.04 with Ultimate Edition.
I even got the Ultimate Edition Group involved and they thought that the problem was Compiz Fusion.
So I made adjustments to Compiz and it only became worse like what you posted in those 'four images.'
I was not able to fix it and I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

I remedied it by installing a new distribution-

I wonder what Linux Mint has to say?
http://linuxmint.com/
http://forums.linuxmint.com/search.p...9f805cc3655130

How long have you had your Samsung computer?
 
Old 12-10-2012, 03:00 PM   #5
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thanks for answers and attention.

Quote:
I would start by looking at logs. Take a look at your Xorg.log or syslog and kern.log. Try to see if there is any clues.
(...) Does anything run slow? Are you noticing any lag on opening apps or running apps or multiple apps?
So basically do some looking around your machine. Get familiar with it and you might come across the answers.
I had the same with an old netbook running Ubuntu a long time ago. It turned out to be that damn Unity killing my machine. I found that out by simply running a 'top' in the terminal and seeing how much system process it was consuming. You never know what it is unless you go searching for clues )
I read the suggested logs, syslog and kernlog have nothing in around the date of when the problem happened 8 DEC. between 7:30 and 9 PM clock. The Xorg.log have no time, so I up in the same link of images if anyone can verify because I'm a beginner and this log is a little advanced for my.
-- The machine is not slower and no high temperatures happen. I pay attention all time in CPU usage and in Temp sensors (in XFCE or MATE). Any application run without problems. The machine NOT STOP or "freeze" because this problem. But this is realy strange and annoying.

--
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Then I would check for any updated gfx drivers you can get your hands on. Maybe yours are out of date.
Is it just the gfx you are having problems with?
How I update this? sorry, but what you suggest is that I sould update the Intel drivers?

Quote:
I see that you have the same card that I do:
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
And I had to go and get the RT73 driver for it and blacklist the 8169.
After the install of the driver and the blacklist I restarted my system and than it was ok.
Until I did that I had graphics issues. In other-words my graphics would consistently run in low graphics mode.
-- I see something about this network card when I updated the kernel to try solve this. Anyway, I will check your suggest. So just wait my answer for this.
I found the http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ to update de intel display 3000 driver, by I read around foruns and sites about this. The intel drivers are inside of kernel. I can try update only the drivers. But I don't no exactly how.

-- I forgot of mention that I tried VORIA packages (mentioned in ) - Linux on my Samsung laptop and nothing work. I try Jupiter app and no work.
But I will try it again. I have many system backup images of before of I tried any procedure about graphics issue. I tried many different orders to install packages from voria and nothing work.

-- I read that many user have problems in samsung laptops runing linux, more users with ubuntu.
I would try the Mint 14 based on ubuntu 12.10, but this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1040557 worry me. (read the link and will understand). This may cause damage in your bios or another part of motherboard hardware if your machine is samsung laptop (check model) (may be my case).

-- I found the similar issue in http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=114729

-- Anyone can see the images direct in http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=119391

--
Quote:
I looked at the four images that you posted in your first link.
I had the exact same thing going on when my distro was Ubuntu Studio 10.04 with Ultimate Edition.
I even got the Ultimate Edition Group involved and they thought that the problem was Compiz Fusion.
So I made adjustments to Compiz and it only became worse like what you posted in those 'four images.'
I was not able to fix it and I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

I remedied it by installing a new distribution-
I wonder what Linux Mint has to say?
http://linuxmint.com/
http://forums.linuxmint.com/search.p...9f805cc3655130

How long have you had your Samsung computer?
The issues happen WITH OR WITHOUT desktop effects in XFCE or MATE. I'm searching for solution a long time, but only now I ask in the forum.

I have this laptop since 24 of October of 2012. The problems starts here.
Before the SAMSUNG 300EA4 I have a HP COMPAC PRESARIO CQ40-711BR with mint 13, but after one month running mint 13, the compact motherboard freaking out. Maybe BGA or bios die. Before this the compac lives for two years without problems (running XP and games).

I think that ubuntu based distros maybe have partial incompatibility with samsung laptops.

So, to resume I will try:
1 update intel drive
2 update Realtek RTL8111/8168B
3 if 1 or 2 fail, I try update kernel to lastest again
4 if all above fail, I try voria again

Thanks for answers, but have more suggests ?

Last edited by aceleron; 12-15-2012 at 07:36 AM.
 
Old 12-10-2012, 03:14 PM   #6
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You are Welcome!

Can't think of any thing else (but Memtest86) for now but 2 members warned me of this:
Don't upgrade the kernel wait for the Distribution Team that built your distro to bring it to your attention in an update. It will automatically update the kernel for you. However;

I was also taught that on a stable system users only install a new kernel ifthey need support for newer hardware or to correct a performance problem. This might just apply to you; but I am not the expert here.

You could run Memtest86 it's a tool to diagnose hardware problems and see what the output is-
See the link below-

The latest Stable Kernel is 3.6.10
http://www.kernel.org/

Here is the free download
http://www.memtest86.com/

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Old 12-10-2012, 03:28 PM   #7
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I found this article about the Voria packages. And then wondered about your system....hmmm-
https://plus.google.com/100290758072...ts/2T9DsvgWGZ3

Did you have to install those Voria packages in order for the keys on your Samsung to work?
 
Old 12-11-2012, 07:33 AM   #8
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And I had to go and get the RT73 driver for it and blacklist the 8169.
How did you manage to run your Gigabit Ethernet card with a driver for a WLAN card from a different chipset manufacturer?
 
Old 12-11-2012, 11:23 AM   #9
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How did you manage to run your Gigabit Ethernet card with a driver for a WLAN card from a different chipset manufacturer?
Well at the time my distro was Ubuntu so I had to install Ndis Wrapper along with the driver for the NIC.
I also was using a Linksys adapter as well. I remember having to use the Linksys disc for the .inf file. I also had to install the driver for the WUSB54gc adapter.

I am not able to remember all the details as a Moderator at the Ultimate Edition Oz group helped me to set it up. At the time I was not able to get the internet connection to work. The connection was wireless.

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Old 12-11-2012, 02:04 PM   #10
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new and olds

I have news.

I changed a little the attempts.

1 - Before I start, I remove my virtualbox-ose because updating kernel, DKMS will have problems. I reinstall soon.
reboot

2 - I update my kernel from 3.2.23 to 3.6.9
reboot

3 - I uptade Intel drivers:
add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
apt-get update
after, I upgrade the drivers using synaptic
reboot

4 - I reinstall Virtualbox from:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
I get the newer one and install. No problems about DKMS shows up and I'm able to boot/use pendrive and/or usb devices in Virtualbox.
I read around that many users have problems with this.

5 - I install voria packages:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:voria/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install samsung-tools samsung-laptop

I'm not sure, but seems that I'm able to set FAN to silent mode to prevent high temp.
I tried install voria in the past with 3.2.23 kernel but I remember that don't worked. But with updated kernel, seems run correctly. (I will confirm this later.)
BUT, I still not able to adjust brightness. I'm trying some combinations in file /etc/default/grub/ editing the line:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nosplash acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor" with voria.
Using kernel 3.2.23 the control brightness work using only the command above.

About my "strange graphics problem" I tried fix this in mint 13 64 bits MATE version, but Mate freeze and crash some times. So I using XFCE.

I run memory test before updates and no errors reported.

I will verify the status about network card driver. But before I need make a new Image system using systemrescue.

I'm make some test about my hardware. The strange problems not happened, but I need wait to see if it was solved. As soon as I can, I will post news about.

Thanks for all answers.
Later

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Old 12-11-2012, 04:14 PM   #11
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Exclamation

I forget of "highlight" one important point.

Using the kernel 3.2.23 I'm able to control brightness using Fn+F3 and F4 keys. if I set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nosplash acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor" in grub file.
Using the kernel 3.6.9 I'm not able. Only able to decrease level but no increase.

Very strange. The newer have less support comparing with older.

Untill the moment, the "matrix (d)effect" not happened. But I need more time to have sure.

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Old 12-12-2012, 01:18 PM   #12
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I run memory test before updates and no errors reported.
That's good news!
Is everything ok with your system now or are you still trying things?

You said when you use kernel 3.2.23 you can control the brightness but when you use kernel
3.6.9 your not able to control the brightness- Right?

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Old 12-14-2012, 12:48 PM   #13
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Let me explain a little better this.

When I use Kernel 3.2.23 I can control brightness, using plugin bar of XFCE. But is necessery that I put the line acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor in grub. The brightness can be calibrated smoothly by plugin bar.

After update to 3.6.9 kernel. If I remove kernel parameters, I can control the brightness. BUT, when I will calibrate the brightness using plugin bar or xbacklight tool, the brightness CAN NOT BE adjusted smoothly. Seems that the brightness "flicker" (i don't know if this is the right term to use) while I move the control slider to up or down. If I put the brightness around 50%, when I click plugin bar to show the control slider, the brightness go to 100% automatically before I click in slider bar again. And have more. When monitor turn on after off (has been idle for a time) brightnees get back to 100%.
If I put the same line in kernel parameters, everything remains the same as above but I'm able to decrease level but no increase. Always "flicker" or "flickering" or something. After all, I install kernel 3.7.0 and nothing changes.
Something strange was changed after kernel 3.2.23 version. I tried Manjaro (arch based) with kernel 3.4 and I get the same issue about brightness.

I supose about another (minor) issue, XFCE-power-manager can not turn off monitor, only can put in blank state, who can turn off monitor is the x-screensaver, I tested this several times.
This is another annoying problem.

I tested the brightness problem WITH and WITHOUT voria laptop-tools or easy-slow-down...+backlight packages combining with kernel parameters and brightness can not adjusted smoothly.

The problem about "very strange behavior" seems to be gone. I say seems.

About fan control, I'm not sure about your effective funcionamento, the processor does not seem to get hot or expel hot wind from cooler. BUT (again) when I use in xscreeen saver the firelamp, the processor temp rises too much (around 65-70c or 150f). Before I install voria, when I use stellarium, the temp rises much. After voria, no (temp is 50-55c in a hot day around 36c). So, why firelamp make the cpu too hot ? I really don't no. A bug, maybe.

Why I'm reporting all problems that are happening here? because I think these things can be very import to anyone that read this post searching for information about similar problems like these or these things may be have some relation with "strange matrix behavior".
All is possible.


I make a image back-up of my Mint XFCE 64 with kernel 3.7.0 with updated intel drivers and voria and now I trying mint 13 64 with KDE environment. BUT () one thing that I not mentioned until now is that, in XFCE and in KDE I feel that something is wrong with my eyes. I feel that I need force my eyes to read anything in screen and this cause me HEADACHE. This not happening in windows, mint 11 with gnome (I also tried) or when I used manjaro with XFCE. This problem is worse in FONT of browsers. They (fonts) slightly smaller and slightly lighter (low contrast with background) only in mint. In general seems that all fonts are "rendered" in a way that the my eyes suffer to look.
This is happening with me only when I use XFCE or KDE with mint. I don't not If the problem is me, if I'm being paranoic... ... What I say is that ... during 2 months I searched in internet how I solve this and another problems that happened with linux in my samsung laptop. But I think part of problems are caused by incompatibilities between linux and samsung machines (propably, I'm not buy samsung machines in the future).
I'm very tired about many problems that happened in this "trip".

I already wrote much. For now, it is.

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Old 12-14-2012, 03:49 PM   #14
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Most perplexing news; you sound disappointed; sorry-

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But I think part of problems are caused by incompatibilities between linux and samsung machines (propably, I'm not buy samsung machines in the future).
That's a possiility but should be re-searched and perhaps there is a way to make right these things.
I do not know how to test for this incompatibility but I will do my best to learn and do re-search.
Should I find something that is worthy to help you I will post it-

I see a Software Developer from time to time and I will ask him of this and see what he says-

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The problem about "very strange behavior" seems to be gone. I say seems.
For your sake; I'm glad it's gone. What do you think changed that?

Time may be the element here. In time (if) the strange behavior surfaces again maybe it can be diagnosed by than.
 
Old 12-14-2012, 06:44 PM   #15
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I will do my best to learn and do re-search.
Should I find something that is worthy to help you I will post it
Thanks, but I think that this can be hard for try solve. With my searches in foruns, tecnical sites and with I learned in 3 month about linux, problems like brightness have direct relation with linux kernel and yours modules. These things envolving programing in C and low level language and knowledge about specific hardware. (I guess about all). I'm studing C in university and I will learn more about modules and another things to try anything about this. I'm moving to programing area and this knowledge will help me.
Anyway, thanks again.

In the right moment, I'm using mint with KDE and things are a little better than with XFCE.

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What do you think changed that?
I dont know if I understand correctly your question. If really the strange behavior is gone, maybe updating the intel drivers can be solved this. Or maybe the updated kernel. I'm not sure. I guess by hour, it is solved.

I hope that I have expressed myself clearly in the last post about mint fonts that are rendering in my machine. I'm sure that something is different and this cause me the strange feel in my eyes while I'm looking to screen. But I think that this I have to solve by myself.
 
  


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