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Old 09-12-2010, 06:21 PM   #1
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Slackware 13.1 installation stalls at "kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10"


Hi All,
My first post. I am so new to Linux that I have not even successfully installed it. I am trying to install Slackware 13.1 from a DVD out of one of the Linux magazines. My system is a Toshiba L505D, Win 7 64 bit, dual processor, 3Gb RAM, 320 Gb HD.
When I attempt to load the hugesmp.s or the huge.s at the prompt, the installation will get to the following point and stall (I gave it 20 minutes):

[<C10035be>] kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10

I would really like to get to the point where I can uninstall Windows completely and just use Linux, but at this point I need to dual boot the system until I learn. Any pointers in that respect would be greatly appreciated also.
Thank you

I have now tried Knoppix 6.3 and Fedora 13 with the same problem. Attached is a screenshot of the display.
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Old 09-12-2010, 09:25 PM   #2
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That message is from the kernel crashing, which usually means there is some issue with supporting your hardware. If you are on a 64 bit machine, you may want to try running the 64 bit versions of the various distributions and seeing if that improves the situation (I am assuming the disc from the magazine had the standard 32 bit versions).
 
Old 09-13-2010, 10:19 PM   #3
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OK, I will check it out. How do I determine whether it is a 32 or 64 bit distro?
Is there a 64 bit Slackware version?
Thank you.
 
Old 09-14-2010, 08:51 AM   #4
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When you download the iso file for a distro, it will be labeled x86_64 or otherwise have a 64 involved.

Slackware does have a 64 bit version. Go to any mirror, and the 64 bit iso will be in the folder slackware64-13.1-iso.

Slackware is a little more involved for a new user than some other distros. You might consider something a little easier.
 
Old 09-15-2010, 09:28 AM   #5
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I have successfully installed Slackware 13 on another (Dell) laptop. So far I like it. Everything works except for the WLAN which needs to be configured. I still have not installed it successfully on the Toshiba. I have not had a chance to get a 64 bit version yet.
Something easier reed9? If I wanted something easier I would stick with Windows . I may be new to Linux but I have been a computer user for about 30 years. I am not afraid of a command line, editing a registry or a config.sys or creating partitions. I may be an old dog but I can learn new syntax.
Time to get a 64 bit version now. I will let you know my progress.
 
Old 09-15-2010, 09:43 AM   #6
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Sounds good - I like your determined and positive attitude.

You'll be happy to know that in Linux, there's no "registry" as such, like there is in the Windows world!

Meanwhile, if you want and are able to experiment a bit, you might try passing some parameters to the kernel when you try to boot the installation disc; some helpful arguments to add onto your kernel boot line might be:

noapic
noacpi
acpi=off

Incidentally, another user had some similar trouble with the same/similar make & model of laptop (Satellite L505D-GS6000) over here, and had difficulties with a number of Linux on that machine:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d-dvds-799443/
So you might like to peruse that thread for ideas too.

Good luck!!
 
Old 09-15-2010, 09:44 AM   #7
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Something easier reed9? If I wanted something easier I would stick with Windows.
Fair enough. It's a great attitude to have and far too rare!

Might I also suggest my personal favorite Arch Linux? Similar in philosophy to Slackware and I've had great success with it on troublesome hardware, specifically an old Toshiba Satellite that nothing else would install on.
 
Old 09-15-2010, 09:38 PM   #8
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GrapefruiTGirl, I tried your suggestions with no luck. I tried:
boot: hugesmp.s noacpi
boot: hugesmp.s acpi=0
boot: hugesmp.s acpi= no
and a couple of others. The bootloader(?) just ignores everything after the kernel designation. Same errors as before
I also tried to boot a Slax 6.1.2 Live CD. No luck there either. I got a "Fatal Error" blah blah "This should never happen"
So the 64 bit Slackware 13 should be ready tomorrow after a 6 hour download. I will try that.
 
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:49 AM   #9
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The 64 bit Slackware 13.1 does not install either. After shrinking my Windows 7 partition and creating another, I cannot load ANY version of Linux on this Toshiba laptop.
That sux.
I did get it to load on a Dell M65 with no problem. I can at least start learning.
 
Old 03-08-2011, 11:31 PM   #10
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Lightbulb kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnGabhar View Post
I am trying to install Slackware 13.1 from a DVD out of one of the Linux magazines. My system is a Toshiba L505D, Win 7 64 bit, dual processor, 3Gb RAM, 320 Gb HD.
When I attempt to load the hugesmp.s or the huge.s at the prompt, the installation will get to the following point and stall (I gave it 20 minutes):

[<C10035be>] kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10
Ubuntu can be installed as a file within Windows using wubi. You can use Windows compmgmt.msc to set up your partitions in advance. I don't guarantee it but it might solve your problem:
http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ub...dows-installer
If that works, Ubuntu can later be migrated to a partition of its own:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
Good luck!

Part two:

I came across your post because I was having the same problem with installing Sabayon on my MSI U100 Netbook.
Sabayon booted fine from my LiveCD in all the various forms which, together with the fact that I have been able to install all kinds of distros before, led me to the conclusion that the problem was not my machine but something else.
I had Windows XP installed in a primary partition on the machine. I also had Ubuntu installed on a logical drive of an extended partition and a swap file partition on another logical drive of the extended partition. In addition I had several empty logical drives on the extended partition. When installing Sabayon, I selected an empty partition and gave the same swapfile partition as Ubuntu, which I had done before with other installations without problems. I also did not let Sabayon intall a bootloader. After install, I booted Ubuntu and did a 'sudo update-grub', which found the Sabayon install and listed it in grub on the next boot. However, the Sabayon install died at the above mentioned point. I re-installed but the same error came up.
Next I wiped all partitions except for Windows. I created a primary 4GB partition for swap although 2GB would probably be enough given my 2GB of memory. I also created another primary partition, which is not relevant to this discussion. Finally I created an extended partition with a bunch of logical drives.
I installed Saboyan on a 12 GB logical drive and designated the 4GB primary partiton as swap. I also let Saboyan use it's own boot loader.
Success! Saboyan booted up fine.
Analysis:
Possible causes of the problem are -
1) swap file must be on primary partition, cannot be shared, or swap file too small.
2) must use Saboyan's boot loader
3) other linux installations somehow interfere
4) install partition must be fresh and unformatted
The cause, at least in my case, could be any one or a combination of the above. Further investigation may narrow it down. Anyway, I offer these as possible clues to follow up.
I now have to re-install Ubuntu myself to see what happens. If I discover anything further I'll add to this post then.

Last edited by hugs; 03-09-2011 at 01:16 AM. Reason: addin more info
 
  


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