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Old 01-11-2009, 07:03 PM   #1
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Unhappy Problem Getting linux on my HP G60-243CL notebook


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So like my Subject says I'm having problems installing any linux distro on my new HP G60-243CL notebook. It came pre-installed with vista and i hate windows so i want to put linux on it as soon as possible. Anyway I've tried booting from different live cds and they all stop booting even backtrack. I tried openSuSE,linux mint,DSL,lunar linux, and gentoo. None of them worked at all i couldn't install or boot them. The only one that i could get the live cd to work with was samurai 3.0 which looks like ubuntu but i dont want ubuntu on my laptop. Anyway is there a way i could get either linux mint or maybe gentoo to work? I've tried everything i could think of.
 
Old 01-11-2009, 07:33 PM   #2
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I've tried everything i could think of.
You need to tell us what you have tried. This statement tells us nothing.

You need to post specific errors you have received in a failed attempt. Then, possibly we can advise you.

Have you created free space to install linux to? Are you intending to dual boot? Or are you just wanting one linux system only.

Interesting, you don't want Ubuntu, but you do want Mint. Mint is a Ubuntu derivative. Gentoo is not for beginners. DSL is a very small distro intended for older hardware. I looked at HP's site, I didn't see anything unusual in the hardware listing, other than that system has a wide screen. Most modern distros will handle that.

Decide what you want to install ( pick one, not a bunch ). Post the problem with as much detail as you can provide. We can have a look and go from there. It takes a little knowledge to get a system installed and working.
 
Old 01-11-2009, 08:20 PM   #3
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well like i said when i try to boot from the cd it stops i guess i forgot to mention too is that it says something about my cd/dvd drive i cant remember but for the most part it just stops loading on my desktop all my distro's work so i know its not the cds. But i decided i want to put gentoo on the laptop and dual boot with vista.
 
Old 01-11-2009, 08:43 PM   #4
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It came pre-installed with vista and i hate windows so i want to put linux on it as soon as possible.
We will help you to get rid of vista! Tell us what errors you see and rest assured that we want you to run Linux! You can run Linux on the system. Try the OpenSuse 11.1 installation dvd. This is the latest version. Then, at the boot menu, select the Safe Install option. Then, selet to use the entire hard drive for the installation, and select Yes for format.
 
Old 01-12-2009, 09:22 AM   #5
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i decided i want to put gentoo on the laptop and dual boot with vista.
That can be done. Do not follow the instructions posted by jiobo, or you will not have a Vista install.

To set up dual booting on a system that has Vista installed, you have to use a tool like Partition Magic to shrink your Vista install. This assumes the disk is not full of data.

Step one. Back up any and all data you consider important. Failure to do this could result in loss of data.

Step two. Delete any unnecessary files on Vista. Things like browser cache. Run defrag on the system. It may take some time, let it run.

Step three. Shrink the Vista partiton, leaving enough space for your linux install. You will find most distros have partitioning tools and formatting tools you will use during the install. So just shrink the Vista partition until you have the space you want for linux.

Step four. Boot from the installation CD or DVD and install to the free space. You will be given an opportunity to install either Grub or Lilo. These programs are boot loaders. I suggest you go with Grub, install it to the MBR. The install process will see your Vista install, create a boot option for Vista, and create a boot option for linux.

If you are having trouble booting the install CD's or DVD, then make sure the media will boot on another machine. If it does, then we need information on all errors that occur on the target machine. There are boot options we can pass the kernel to get around various errors. You can not guess here, we need to know what is failing at boot time.
 
Old 01-12-2009, 07:59 PM   #6
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don't get me wrong i wanna get rid of vista but after i feel like i really want the laptop because it has a partion on it that restores vista if something happens so after i feel like im going to keep it vista will be gone forever but for now when i get a chance im going to do what camorri and set that up i'll post my questions or success lol here.
 
Old 01-18-2009, 11:21 PM   #7
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ok so idk where my linux cds r all i could find was debian so i tried to install that the problem that came up was that my cd-rom wasnt recognized and it said i had to put something like /dev/mxcd or sumthing like that im going to try and take a picture of the error wen i can
 
Old 01-19-2009, 05:40 PM   #8
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ok so idk where my linux cds r all i could find was debian so i tried to install that the problem that came up was that my cd-rom wasnt recognized and it said i had to put something like /dev/mxcd or sumthing like that im going to try and take a picture of the error wen i can

I have a similar computer if not the same and i am using linux mint 6.0 which works just fine other than a couple little things but its better than vista. one of the problems i had in dual-booting it was that it would freeze so wouldn't recommend dual boot with mint yet but you might be able to use virtual box
 
Old 01-28-2009, 12:04 PM   #9
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AC1 - In regards to "not wanting to lose vista/recovery" ... first and foremost .. Make your DVD backup set so that should something go wrong, you can recover the drive to how you want it.

2nd ... you can use one of the GParted LiveCD's to repartition your drive... again don't do this until after you've made your DVD backups (3 - 4.5 gig dvd's or 2 8.5 gig dual layer dvd's will be your most likely bet)

Once you have your backup disks, download GParted (ISO) redo the partitions and then restart Vista ... perhaps before you shutdown vista, you could right click on your C drive, properties, tools, Scandisk (check mark to automatically fix errors) and just shortly after clicking OK it should tell you it needs unconditional access and wants to know if you'd like it to do so on next boot..

setting that to yes.. then repartitioning, maybe you could avoid the three or four reboots I had ... I didn't set it to checkdisk first.. did that after I rebooted, and the laptop rebooted 3 times, doing a check disk each time..

I have the HP G60-235DX (intel T4200 dual core 2GHz processor, 16" 16:9 widescreen, 3 gigs Ram, 320G HD, Atheros 5007 wireless)

Good Luck!!

Oh... and I'm stuck at the same place you are .... it doesn't recognize the CD. I suspect that its not properly making it through identifying the SATA chipset but haven't had time to confirm screen scrolls so quickly during initial boot.

I was able to boot the GParted Live CD ( http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ ) and have been able to boot and run Ubuntu 8.10 (couldn't get wireless working, notes on web say its an issue with incorrect ID of the Atheros chips and having to d/l patch and recompile/make the module for it) .... have not tried any other distro's though.
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Old 01-29-2009, 12:57 AM   #10
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Just an FYI ... I found that Debian has "Etch-and-a-half" available for download. It says its for people running newer than Etch stuff (newer kernel, xorg drvrs, & newer debian installer)

This got me past the "cdrom" problem that AC1 is describing during the initial install.

it however rears its ugliness as the installed debian tries to boot, in getting timeout errors on ata2, and after two attempts to boot an install, suddenly my root partition is "missing" and I get dropped to a busybox shell.

Funny thing, I chose EXT3 as my file system type, thinking that's journaled and shouldn't have problems.. obviously something's amiss.. deeper down the rabbit hole I go..



Info on EtchAndAHalf:
http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf

and available for Netinstall
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r6/i386/iso-cd/
(debian-40r6-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso)

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Old 02-01-2009, 03:42 PM   #11
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Just an FYI ... I found that Debian has "Etch-and-a-half" available for download. It says its for people running newer than Etch stuff (newer kernel, xorg drvrs, & newer debian installer)

This got me past the "cdrom" problem that AC1 is describing during the initial install.

it however rears its ugliness as the installed debian tries to boot, in getting timeout errors on ata2, and after two attempts to boot an install, suddenly my root partition is "missing" and I get dropped to a busybox shell.

Funny thing, I chose EXT3 as my file system type, thinking that's journaled and shouldn't have problems.. obviously something's amiss.. deeper down the rabbit hole I go..



Info on EtchAndAHalf:
http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf

and available for Netinstall
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r6/i386/iso-cd/
(debian-40r6-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso)
hmmm I'm going to try this soon and see if i get the same errors I'll let you know soon.
 
Old 02-01-2009, 08:07 PM   #12
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Just loaded Ubuntu 8.10 i386 into the G60-243cl without any problems, though I haven't gotten the wifi to work yet (or even tried). I did have blank stares from the screen as I tried booting Knoppix dvd & cd, and a couple other disks I had, though openSuse 11.1 kde & gnome live _64 cds boot fine. I did use the Parted-Magic 3.0 cd to shrink the Vista partition by 100gb beforehand, and gave it a 5gb root, and the rest extended swap and home partitions. Don't know if it's necessary, but I ran Vista's defrag first. (what a pain - but the laptop is a gift, so I have to leave it on.)
 
Old 02-02-2009, 10:48 AM   #13
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Just loaded Ubuntu 8.10 i386 into the G60-243cl without any problems, though I haven't gotten the wifi to work yet (or even tried).
I ended up trying Ubuntu 8.10 Live as well ... it didn't see my Atheros(G60-235DX) wireless correctly, but you just install the older port and it came right up after that..

I've disabled the graphical loader screens (after choosing which os at grub .... use to show just an Ubuntu screen with scrolling marquette like when windows loads) so I could see anything else going on during boot, and ubuntu doesn't show any signs of the ATA2 problem that I was getting from Debian Etch, Etch-and-a-Half, or even Debian Testing... so I've given up on straight debian for now until the next release comes out..

I've gotten my Atheros card working, Kismet installed, and GPSD too so that I can scan while moving.

I'm not a fan of Ubuntu in some respects, and thats possibly a tie into all Xorg based sessions.. as installing and uninstalling stuff menus aren't fully updated, whos to blame(?) not really sure ... but at least I can accomplish what I'm setting out for.

AC1 Good Luck !!
 
Old 02-04-2009, 08:33 PM   #14
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sad to say lol that ubuntu works I'm having a little problem with the wireless but thats probably due to a weak signal anyway at least its linux and not sucky vista. anyway ubuntu defiantly works. thanx everyone if you all find out anything else let me know please. jus glad i have linux even if it iz ubuntu
 
Old 02-08-2009, 01:46 PM   #15
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anyone know where i can find a nvidia GeForce 8200m G drivers for ubuntu linux?
 
  


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