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Old 12-12-2006, 01:51 PM   #1
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Question No sound in Fc6 on Dell XPS m1210...


I have already hit google and have done some extensive searching here in linux questions on this and the closest thing I have found to my issue is this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=473423

The thread is nearly the same issue as what I have except, after the initial install of fedora core 6 My sound card is detected and works... ONCE! on installation of the OS, after the first boot when the system gets to the sound card detection, I can hear music and the card is seen and works fine. however after rebooting the system one more time the sound card no longer works and there is no listed PCM device... the card IS detected properly but it simply does not function.

now is where things get creepy: when I uninstall and reinstall Alsa and the associated components, REBOOT after installing the alsa KMDL, it WORKS! however, one more reboot and it ceases to work again. this can be duplicated as often as I reinstall alsa.

what am I missing?

one more note: the previously mentioned thread is about suse 10.1, it should be noted that suse 10.0, suse 10.1, fedora core 5, and knoppix work. but they have other issues that I cannot ignore.
 
Old 12-13-2006, 11:30 PM   #2
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My suggestion would be to start with a newer version of alsa than what FC6 has (1.0.12rc1 I think). A lot of issues have been fixed, as well as new systems support. You can get it here.

If you still have problems after installing this version, check to see if the drivers are being loaded on reboot with "lsmod | fgrep snd". If not, type "chkconfig alsasound on".
 
Old 12-16-2006, 06:26 PM   #3
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ok, I fixed it.

2 things were to blame: the alsa mixer was not installed (dont ask me how it owrked w/o it) and second the wrong driver was installed, I installed alsa-driver from atrpms and it all works fine.

thanks GrueMaster
 
Old 12-18-2006, 03:16 PM   #4
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Scratch that. it did not work. I assumed it did because I reboot multiple times and it continued to work. there's the thing. if I SHUTDOWN and come back later and reboot it, the sound driver disappears. if I reboot from within Fedora (ie: "init6") it stays put... this makes no sence at all.

I have two kernels install (stock and an update) if I change kernels, it works, if I uninstall and reinstall the driver via gnome-soundcard-detect it works, if I uninstall and reinstall ANY part of alsa it works, if I uninstall and reinstall Gnome-volume-manager it works. but as soon as I issue a shutdown comand and reboot, sound is lost no matter what!

I give up, I am switching to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 beta 2 (I can get it through my employer) and see where it goes from there. if that works I'll buy the blasted entitlement to RHN and get RHEL5 when it releases to gold in January. And if it doesnt work I'll come crying back here.

Last edited by IcoNyx; 12-18-2006 at 03:17 PM.
 
Old 12-19-2006, 10:54 AM   #5
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ok, Update:

RHEL is not working for me, the version My employer uses uses the FC6 alsa drivers so the issues are the same.

HOWEVER I think I am zeroing in on the issue... I noticed the other day that My computers sound card is somehow related if not attached to my modem, I have the modem disabled because I never use it. so I went into bios and reenabled the modem, on reboot I got sound!!! unfortunately once I did the whole "shut it down, then restart it" I lost sound again. the major diferance in this case is I did not reload any software, only modified the affected hardware, I think this forced linux to readdress the sound system and reload the part that is haveing issues...

this lead me to my modprobe.conf file:
Code:
alias eth0 b44
alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-0 index=0
remove snd-hda-intel { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }] /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-hda-intel

does this look odd to anyone else? and does anyone know what I SHOULD have?

Last edited by IcoNyx; 12-19-2006 at 11:05 AM.
 
Old 12-19-2006, 11:08 AM   #6
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Ok, let's start fresh. Could you send me the output from "lspci", "lspci -vn", and "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec*"? Email them so they don't take up a hugh amount of space here in the forum.

From there, I can pinpoint your exact sound configuration, and go from there.
 
Old 12-19-2006, 11:59 AM   #7
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edit: oops, missed the "e-mil them" part.

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Old 12-19-2006, 04:03 PM   #8
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ok, I have FINALLY found the fix.

after a fresh install of RHEL5, I downloaded and installed the latest DKMS: http://linux.dell.com/dkms/dkms-2.0.13-1.noarch.rpm
then I installed the Dell version of the snd-hda-intel drivers:
http://linux.dell.com/files/audio/in...kms.noarch.rpm

then in remmed out every line in my modprobe.conf file that referanced snd-hda-intel so I ended up with this.
Code:
alias eth0 b44
alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix
#alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
#options snd-card-0 index=0
#remove snd-hda-intel { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }] /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-hda-intel
problem solved.

I have shutdown/booted 6 times consecitively and have inter sprinkled regular reboots. the issue has been resolved completely. thank you gruemaster for your assitance.
 
Old 12-20-2006, 05:37 PM   #9
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hey guys, I have the same problem as well. When I restart PC, no sound. GrueMaster, can you help me out? The output of commands:

[root@winlin asound]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 80)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
00:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46)
00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] (rev a1)
[root@winlin asound]# lspci -vn
00:00.0 0600: 1106:3189 (rev 80)
Subsystem: 1106:0000
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 8
Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Capabilities: [80] AGP version 3.5
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:01.0 0604: 1106:b198
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
Memory behind bridge: dde00000-dfefffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: bdd00000-ddcfffff
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:06.0 0c00: 1106:3044 (rev 46) (prog-if 10)
Subsystem: 1106:3044
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 201
Memory at dfffb800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
I/O ports at ec00 [size=128]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

00:0f.0 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 06) (prog-if 8a)
Subsystem: 1462:0210
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 169
I/O ports at fc00 [size=16]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:10.0 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
Subsystem: 1462:0210
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 177
I/O ports at dc00 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.1 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
Subsystem: 1462:0210
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 177
I/O ports at e000 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
Subsystem: 1462:0210
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 177
I/O ports at e400 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.3 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
Subsystem: 1462:0210
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 177
I/O ports at e800 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:10.4 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 86) (prog-if 20)
Subsystem: 1462:0210
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 177
Memory at dffffe00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:11.0 0601: 1106:3227
Subsystem: 1106:0000
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:11.5 0401: 1106:3059 (rev 60)
Subsystem: 1462:0080
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 3
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

00:12.0 0200: 1106:3065 (rev 78)
Subsystem: 1462:021c
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 185
I/O ports at d400 [size=256]
Memory at dffffd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

01:00.0 0300: 10de:0343 (rev a1)
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 193
Memory at de000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Expansion ROM at dfee0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0

[root@winlin asound]# pwd
/proc/asound
[root@winlin asound]# cat /proc/asound/card0/codec*
cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec*: No such file or directory
[root@winlin asound]# ls -l
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 card0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 cards
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 devices
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 hwdep
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 modules
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 oss
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 pcm
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 seq
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 timers
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Dec 20 18:32 U0x46d0x8d7 -> card0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 version
[root@winlin asound]# cd card0
[root@winlin card0]# ls -l
total 0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 id
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 oss_mixer
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 pcm0c
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 usbbus
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 18:32 usbid


as you see,I have no file codec*. I have no idea why...
anyone, help please...
 
Old 12-20-2006, 07:17 PM   #10
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You have an entirely different sound card architecture (AC97 Audio Controller). Unfortunately, I only know the Intel HD Audio architecture (Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller).

You should file a bug on alsa-project.org. Make sure you include the make/model of your system.
 
Old 12-20-2006, 08:31 PM   #11
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Quote:
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You have an entirely different sound card architecture (AC97 Audio Controller). Unfortunately, I only know the Intel HD Audio architecture (Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller).

You should file a bug on alsa-project.org. Make sure you include the make/model of your system.
thanks for the answer
 
Old 08-27-2007, 08:39 PM   #12
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Question mic solution too?

Quote:
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the issue has been resolved completely. thank you gruemaster for your assitance.
Hey I was wondering if all this work you did allowed you to use the mic jack as well? I have a xps m1210 as well, without the communication package, and running feisty. i had no problem with the sound, but when i plug in my headset to the mic jack i get nothing. i'm wondering if the work you did with the sound will help with this too...?
 
  


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