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Old 05-23-2007, 12:08 PM   #1
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laptop won't boot after installing linux


When ever I install Linux my laptop it no longer works. The install always goes fine, but after I try to boot into Linux it won't go. I get post and everything, but right after I get a black screen and the laptop just sits there. I can not boot to any other media until I remove the hard drive. Then I can boot other media. If I put the hard drive in my desktop and hook it up I can get it to run just fine. I have tried 2 different hard drives. Laptop also works fine if windows is installed. I can format the hard drive and put it back in my laptop and then I can boot to other media with it installed after that. I have tried kubuntu 7.04 32-bit and 64-bit, ubuntu 7,04 32 and 64 bit, Fedora core 5 and 6 both 32 and 64 bit, linspire5.1, and I have tried Slackware 11 with both the 2.4 and 2.6 kernel. I got ubuntu 7.04 64-bit to boot once after an install, but after updates it started back up with the same problem. I have tried doing a memory test on it using the ubuntu cd and everything checked out fine. This is the first time I have tried to install Linux on the laptop. I tried updating the bios, but that did not help. I have also tried booting with different kernel options to turn off apic and acpi. Any help would be great. I am trying to avoid using it as a windows machine. Laptop is an MSI Megabook 675. It has 2gb corsair ram, a dvd burner, turion64x2 1.8, realtek audio and realtek gbit lan, MSI 6855B WLAN BT Combo and Bluetooth connection, 6-in-1 Card Reader, SD/MMC/XD/SM/MS/MS Pro, nVidiaŽ GeForceŽ 6100 C51MV + MCP51M, and Nvidia geforce go 7600.
 
Old 05-23-2007, 12:14 PM   #2
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What boot manager did you install? Where did you install it? Just pick the latest attempt. Unless there is something very unusual about this laptop, it should boot.
 
Old 05-23-2007, 02:17 PM   #3
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So far I have used grub on and everything but slackware which comes with lilo. I just use what ever the default settings are for installing it. From what I have seen that is usually either on the master boot record or whatever partition is reserved for root. I could be wrong but i don't think it is that though because like i said before I can install on my laptop and it will fail, then I can pop the hard drive out and hook it up to my desktop and there are no problems.
 
Old 05-23-2007, 04:45 PM   #4
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I'm not clear on some things. Do you get a boot menu from Grub showing up on the laptop?

Are you saying you can put the drive in a desktop, and can boot from it?

Have you ever tried to boot the laptop with a live CD, for example Knoppix?
 
Old 05-23-2007, 05:01 PM   #5
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Hi, I just participated in a similar issue on another post. See if you can boot into, as camorri suggests, a knoppix or other live cd / install cd. Go to a partition manager, and make the partition you're booting from 'bootable'. Normally it's not required for linux partitions, but I think a few laptop BIOSes require this.

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Here's the original thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=555315
 
Old 05-23-2007, 10:45 PM   #6
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After installing linux I get no boot menu. The laptop will post and then there is a black screen. Unless I remove the hard drive at this point I can not boot to a live CD. I can remove the hard drive after installing linux and hook it up to my desk top. Linux will boot up just fine from there. I can try installing on my laptop and then putting the drive in my desktop and go about making the partition bootable. Although I have made the partition bootable when I installed slackware and it never changed anything. Thanks for the input so far. I appreciate the help.
 
Old 05-24-2007, 12:22 AM   #7
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This is one of the weirdest things I've ever heard of.

What is this laptop? Make/model/processor/year built?
 
Old 05-24-2007, 12:31 AM   #8
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If I put the hard drive in my desktop and hook it up I can get it to run just fine.
Are you saying that you can boot from this drive in another system?

Inside the bios menu, try disabling the PnP OS if there is one. Also, along with the 'acpi=off' command, add 'nofb' after that. The graphics chip might have a problem enabling the console framebuffer, so this will start the kernel without it.

Sam
 
Old 05-24-2007, 08:36 AM   #9
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If you don't get the boot menu in the laptop, then there is a BIOS issue. The BIOS code sends the heads to the MBR, that is where GRUB will be.

Have a look at which is the first boot device in the BIOS. Either the CDrom first and HD second or floppy first, HD second, or HD first should work.

Is this by any chance a new HD for this laptop? Some older BIOS's do not support much larger drives. I would also have a look around the manufacturers web site and look for a BIOS update.
 
Old 05-24-2007, 01:03 PM   #10
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Tried the nofb potion. It didn't help. My bios is setup to boot to CDROM first and Hard drive second. I have tried switching it, but there is no difference. According to MSI's website I am using the latest bios for that model. The bios shouldn't have a problem with the size of the hard drive because I can install windows on it and the laptop runs fine.
 
Old 05-24-2007, 03:36 PM   #11
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What was the description of the new Bios in MSI's website? It could have broken compatibility with linux bootloaders. I've heard unconfirmed reports of Phoenix making bios code compatible with windows only. Think about rolling the bios back to a previous version as a last resort.

Sam
 
Old 05-24-2007, 09:04 PM   #12
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The bios was marked specifically for my laptop. I have heard simular rumors about certain bioses only playing well with windows. The maker of the bios is AMI. The only 2 bioses supplied are the old one that came on the machine, and the one on MSI's website. I upgraded to the new one because of having this problem on the old one. I am guessing that it is probably what is wrong. There is most likly a driver or setting specific to linux that doesn't work with my bios.
 
Old 05-24-2007, 11:20 PM   #13
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So let me understand you correctly. You upgraded your bios before or after you first tried booting linux? And what specifically was the reason why you upgraded the bios?

I've heard nothing bad about AMI and their bios code. Have you tried enabling 'fail-safe' settings in the bios, then booting?
 
Old 05-26-2007, 07:39 AM   #14
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I tried to install linux and I encountered the problem. After doing some troubleshooting and nothing seemed to work I updated my bios to the newest one that was provided by msi. It still didn't change anything. My bios does not have any options in it for enabling failsafe settings. I can load bios defaults if that is what you mean, but it does nothing.
 
Old 05-26-2007, 02:02 PM   #15
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What does your hard drive's entire partition scheme look like? Some bioses have trouble booting from certain places of the disk. Also, if you have any special partition for the laptop, the bios might be trying to boot from that into windows.

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