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Old 08-20-2005, 05:35 AM   #1
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Exclamation Laptop shuts down whenever!


Hello!

Right now im using a [Laptop Fujitsu Siemens Amilo D 2,4ghz p4 Gentoo 2005.1], I have finished installing from the cd-rom and I am now about to emerge kde. Kde is big and takes alot of time, but after 5 or less minutes my laptop just shuts down!!

There are no error-messages no warnings no nothing!! It just goes down!
This HAS happened before with Windows XP SP2 when I would play games over LAN/IPX, but all help I got that time was an invitation to a forum debating over which virus-scan to use...oh well

I am able to emerge smaller things like dhcpcd and such, but why is it that when I did the whole gentoo-installation that took about 4 hours emerging and mounting that it never shutted down a single time, is it really a temperature problem like this thread ->

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=354064

or does it have to do with memory-crashes and such things?

I tried to search www.google.com/linux and it turns out that Toshiba-laptops are experiencing the same problem and they state that it has to do with temperature, but if so then what can I do?? Any cheap ways of solution?? thx!
 
Old 08-20-2005, 10:15 AM   #2
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hi there,
are you using apm/apci? check the kernel for that..
lsmod can help you..
when it shuts down, which temperature you have?
do you hear the fan working?
did you try using some cooling device?
regards,
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:32 AM   #3
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hi thx for the reply!

how do I check apm/apci?

heres when i type lsmod:

Module Size Used by
video 13892 -
touchkitusb 4420 -

root#

when it shuts down the fan is going like crazy, I cant see where the temperature but its really *damn* hot on the back of my laptop.

I tried the vacuum-cleaner, putted my laptop upside-down and started cleaning every part that I was able to move (my hd, graph-card and ram) and inside...so that didnt work..any suggestions?

thx!
 
Old 08-20-2005, 01:11 PM   #4
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hi there,
yeah. sounds like temperature.
to check if you are using acpi/apm you need to check the kernel config. you can check it fast with
Code:
grep -i acpi $your_kernel_config_file
grep -i apm $your_kernel_config_file
how did you install your kernel? genkernel?
i don't know if you did already but gentoo power management guide can help you a lot. it describes each step and possibility concerning acpi - what i suppose that you are using.
hope it helps.
regards
slackie1000
 
Old 08-20-2005, 02:01 PM   #5
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yeah ive looked throu it once but since I was so convinced it was a problem on the surface of the laptop I didn't really notice it could've been that way too!

I could've messed up somewhere during the *make menuconfig* -stage of the gentoo installation-handbook.

I dont know the name of the kernel-config file! neither did I remember if I used genkernel or if I manually installed it :\ how do I check these things? thx!!1
 
Old 08-20-2005, 04:00 PM   #6
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hi there,
Quote:
Originally posted by Wiz22
I dont know the name of the kernel-config file! neither did I remember if I used genkernel or if I manually installed it :\ how do I check these things? thx!!1
the name of the file is
Code:
/usr/src/linux/.config
oohh!
you don't know if you compiled the kernel yourself or if you used genkernel? sorry to tell you that, but this is really bad.
imho, gentoo is not that easy. and the kernel is the heart of your system. what probably happened is that you built a weird kernel and now your laptop can't do nothing against an
Code:
emerge kde
read the installation manual from gentoo.
pay attention in what you are doing.
i have no idea what "genkernel" gives to you. yeah, i run gentoo also but i have a standard .config file.
advice: restart from the beggining and, if you want to use gentoo, read the excellent gentoo documentation.
regards,
slackie1000
 
Old 08-20-2005, 04:51 PM   #7
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I checked the
Code:
grep -i acpi /usr/linux/src/.config
and apm as well, apm seems to be disabled or *not set* while most things in acpi seems to be set, whats disabled is for Toshiba and IBM computers...could it be apm then?

Gentoo has a good reputation when it comes to installation, if you screw up you can always go back and fix it, right? so in worst case ill just have to boot up the gentoo CD-installer and look around things from there, but the problem is I don't really know what to look for except .config you just mentioned :9
 
Old 08-21-2005, 01:03 AM   #8
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hi there,
what exactly you see when you grep your .config file for acpi?
are "they" modules or builtin compiled?
do you run any daemon? does your bios support/uses apm?
i say it again: everything that i will tell you it is written in the gentoo power management guide.
i think your fan is not working correct.
in the worst case i would find a coolling device system: a bag full of ice and put your laptop over.
regards,
slackie1000
 
Old 08-21-2005, 05:21 AM   #9
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since im currently under my old windows-comp then I dont know how to copy over the output of my laptop but it shows something like this:

CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set

and so on and on

when I
Code:
grep -i apm /usr/src/linux/.config
then it only shows:

# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
# APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support
# CONFIG_APM is not set

root#

im going to take a closer look at the guide thx!
 
Old 08-21-2005, 08:56 AM   #10
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hmm, ive putted a small ice-brick on my laptop and right now im emerging kdebase-startkde konqueror, it hasn't shutted down for 30 min now so I think the problem is solved^^;

anyway thx for the help m8, as you probably noticed im kinda novice in linux but Gentoo was my first distro and it will be my last too thx!!1
 
Old 08-21-2005, 09:22 AM   #11
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hi there,
you are welcome !!!
well done with the ice-brick!! LOL..
that is the spirit. gentoo is well known for its documentation. you will find a lot of help here in this forum also.
regards,
slackie1000
 
  


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