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Old 11-01-2003, 06:58 AM   #1
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Unhappy HELP - Uninstalled LINUX - no longer boots


HELP!!!

i installed a copy of mandrake linux i bought to try it out, on a machine with w2k already on it. both operating systems booted fine, till i decided that linux was not going to cover my needs, so i formatted the partitions it was installed on through w2k with the administrative tools.

After rebooting, it did the usual ram test etc, but eventually stopped at a screen saying "1133 Mhz Pentium III /EB CPU, External Cache: 256K installed, LI" and thats it. I tried formatting my hard drive and installing a legal copy of Windows XP that came with the computer, but no luck, i always get stuck at this screen, can anyone help me, it would be greatly appreciated...

I have a general knowledge on computers, but certainly not a deep understanding, so please answer clearly with easy instructions
 
Old 11-01-2003, 08:28 AM   #2
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easy question:

You erased the linux partition, but the boot loader (LILO = LInux LOader) which takes care of booting the o.s. is still there. It tries to startup, that's why you see thr pattern "LI", but it stucks as finds no data on disk (you erased it)

For erasing the linux boot loader you just need a DOS / W95 / W98 boot diskette with fdisk utility. After booting with the disk, just do:

fdisk /mbr

This way you clean up your Master Boot Record, where LILO lives, et voila, it is gone.

Then maybe you need to reinstall Windows boot loader or maybe not. (which I used to do just by starting W2K installation and cancelling it before it begins to copy files to disk... Try it and let it accomplish several stages and reboot with each one until your Windows loader is there)

I hope you still didn't erased all your data !!!
 
Old 11-01-2003, 08:45 AM   #3
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thanks

thanks for your help, i have managed to fix the problem by booting with an ms-dos disk, and typing fdisk /mbr in the command line, this restored my boot record and all is good!!! YEY!
 
Old 11-01-2003, 09:12 AM   #4
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Good.

So, you don't switch to linux yet ?
You will wait for the Total Linux World-Domination ? ;-)
 
Old 11-01-2003, 09:23 AM   #5
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Talking haha

unfortunanetly i work in the world of graphics/cad/3d and the programs are just not available, or as good, but dont despair, i will be giving up on windows shortly (too many problems) i am saving up for another machine based on unix, a MAC! wish me luck in getting a computer that works...
 
Old 11-01-2003, 09:54 AM   #6
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Sorry for the length:

* It seems ironic that Linux dominates at studios known for building secret proprietary technology to gain competitive advantage. What's happened is Hollywood has recognized that having a standard open platform to develop upon enables them to dedicate more of their resources to creating their secret sauce, the technology that sets them apart as a studio.

- Star Wars: Episode II, Linux made Yoda a light saber-wielding action figure.
- Lord of the Rings 2, waves of Orcs attacking the colossal fortress at Helm's Deep are not thousands of human extras, but digital actors created using Linux.

To consumers, Linux may rank third after Windows and Macintosh, but Linux dominates motion pictures more than anyone but studio insiders may realize.
It has been used to produce more than 30 blockbuster films, including Lord of the Rings, Star Wars: Episode II, Harry Potter, Shrek, and Titanic.

Linux has won not only renderfarm servers, but the artist desktops of the top studios.
It's hard to find a large studio that does not rely upon Linux as its primary animation and special effects OS, and many smaller film studios have adopted Linux, too.

At the software level, studios are using Linux versions of some of the leading commercial applications for 3D animation, compositing, special effects, and rendering -- Alias Maya, Apple Shake, and Pixar RenderMan.

Internally, the major studios have ported millions of lines of proprietary code to Linux and are creating their new programs in Linux:


- Ken Beyer (ILM production engineering manager): "Six hundred Linux desktops will be used for Star Wars: Episode III to be released summer 2005."
Sequence supervisor Robert Weaver noticed a tremendous performance boost upgrading from RISC (Sun/SGI) workstations to Linux PCs during Star Wars, Episode II:

"The old system was so slow that the clones firing lasers appear to be throwing javelins," says Weaver. "We've seen about a 5x speed improvement in Linux. I'd say Linux is one of the most successful efforts we've had. I can't say enough good things about it. It is intuitive, incredibly stable, and we can get stuff fixed at a moment's notice."

- Weta Digital used software called Massive to create the hordes of digital Orcs in Lord of the Rings 2. "Autonomous characters could only be done in a limited way before," says Massive developer Stephen Regelous. "There's no way you can animate a hundred thousand characters in any other software in a reasonable amount of time," says Regelous. "Massive runs twice as fast on Linux as it does on Windows."


* Now, three of the most popular 3D animation drawing packages are available in Linux versions: SideFx Houdini (Linux in 1999), Alias Maya (Linux in 2001), and SoftImage (Linux in 2001).
An irony of the migration of software to Linux is that Apple and Pixar became leading suppliers of Linux software. The most popular motion picture compositing software -- Apple Shake (Linux in 2000) -- and the most popular renderer -- Pixar RenderMan (Linux in 1999) -- are both sold by companies headed by Steve Jobs.


CinePaint was based on a software project called Film Gimp, launched in 1998. Film Gimp was still in use there and had been used on Harry Potter, Scooby-Doo, Dr. Dolittle 2, and Planet of the Apes & Stuart Little 2. It was even available for download for free by anyone who wanted it. Studios seemed to want it.

Last year, DreamWorks and Disney funded Linux developer CodeWeavers to make the CrossOver emulator run Windows Adobe Photoshop 7 on Linux -- without Windows. Can Photoshop with CrossOver meet the motion picture industry's need for Linux deep paint?
Not without the source code, and it remains to be seen whether Adobe would make its source code available to studios just to sell a few more copies of Photoshop. Will open-source CinePaint turn out to be the long-term solution? If nothing else, it will show whether the movie industry can get behind building open-source software.
* It seems ironic that Linux dominates at studios known for building secret proprietary technology to gain competitive advantage. What's happened is Hollywood has recognized that having a standard open platform to develop upon enables them to dedicate more of their resources to creating their secret sauce, the technology that sets them apart as a studio.

- Star Wars: Episode II, Linux made Yoda a light saber-wielding action figure.
- Lord of the Rings 2, waves of Orcs attacking the colossal fortress at Helm's Deep are not thousands of human extras, but digital actors created using Linux.

To consumers, Linux may rank third after Windows and Macintosh, but Linux dominates motion pictures more than anyone but studio insiders may realize.
It has been used to produce more than 30 blockbuster films, including Lord of the Rings, Star Wars: Episode II, Harry Potter, Shrek, and Titanic.

Linux has won not only renderfarm servers, but the artist desktops of the top studios.
It's hard to find a large studio that does not rely upon Linux as its primary animation and special effects OS, and many smaller film studios have adopted Linux, too.

At the software level, studios are using Linux versions of some of the leading commercial applications for 3D animation, compositing, special effects, and rendering -- Alias Maya, Apple Shake, and Pixar RenderMan.

Internally, the major studios have ported millions of lines of proprietary code to Linux and are creating their new programs in Linux:

- Ken Beyer (ILM production engineering manager): "Six hundred Linux desktops will be used for Star Wars: Episode III to be released summer 2005."
Sequence supervisor Robert Weaver noticed a tremendous performance boost upgrading from RISC (Sun/SGI) workstations to Linux PCs during Star Wars, Episode II:

"The old system was so slow that the clones firing lasers appear to be throwing javelins," says Weaver. "We've seen about a 5x speed improvement in Linux. I'd say Linux is one of the most successful efforts we've had. I can't say enough good things about it. It is intuitive, incredibly stable, and we can get stuff fixed at a moment's notice."

- Weta Digital used software called Massive to create the hordes of digital Orcs in Lord of the Rings 2. "Autonomous characters could only be done in a limited way before," says Massive developer Stephen Regelous. "There's no way you can animate a hundred thousand characters in any other software in a reasonable amount of time," says Regelous. "Massive runs twice as fast on Linux as it does on Windows."


* Now, three of the most popular 3D animation drawing packages are available in Linux versions: SideFx Houdini (Linux in 1999), Alias Maya (Linux in 2001), and SoftImage (Linux in 2001).
An irony of the migration of software to Linux is that Apple and Pixar became leading suppliers of Linux software. The most popular motion picture compositing software -- Apple Shake (Linux in 2000) -- and the most popular renderer -- Pixar RenderMan (Linux in 1999) -- are both sold by companies headed by Steve Jobs.


CinePaint was based on a software project called Film Gimp, launched in 1998. Film Gimp was still in use there and had been used on Harry Potter, Scooby-Doo, Dr. Dolittle 2, and Planet of the Apes & Stuart Little 2. It was even available for download for free by anyone who wanted it. Studios seemed to want it.

Last year, DreamWorks and Disney funded Linux developer CodeWeavers to make the CrossOver emulator run Windows Adobe Photoshop 7 on Linux -- without Windows. Can Photoshop with CrossOver meet the motion picture industry's need for Linux deep paint?
Not without the source code, and it remains to be seen whether Adobe would make its source code available to studios just to sell a few more copies of Photoshop. Will open-source CinePaint turn out to be the long-term solution? If nothing else, it will show whether the movie industry can get behind building open-source software.

http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/31707.html
 
Old 11-01-2003, 11:37 AM   #7
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Exclamation very interesting

that is a very interesting article, but as a student jsut finishing university here in valencia, i have not the time, nor resources to investigate a way of making these applications viable for my own personal use.

If i gain a 5x speed increase on one of the programs i use thats great, but if i have to spend 2 years to get there on my own, i am now broke, no house, no girlfriend, etc

So my next best option is to go for something that will work at least 99% of the time (as i am hoping with the mac) instead of the pitiful windows performance.

Thanks for the information though, if i ever own a studio i will have some people look into it, haha!
 
Old 11-02-2003, 04:10 PM   #8
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Well, out of curiousity.. what programs did you want to run? i've gotten photoshop running on my desktop, and i've had marginal sucess with AutoDesk Inventor 5 (It runs ever 3rd time I load it... due to a screwy wine problem that should be fixed in the next version, i'm hoping), so I think that whatever applications you're using, you might be able to run them under emulation, heck, there are some $40 emulators for linux that run beautifully....or so I've heard.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 07:02 PM   #9
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inventor 5???

hi, i am very interested in hearing that you have managed to get inventor 5 running on your machine. was it an original copy or a "backup for personal use one..."???

I have been using mechanical desktop 6 as my main cad program and am happy enough with it, it meets my needs, but am not sure i would be capable of achieveing all the things u guys seem to be doing without a reasonable amount of effort.

I hope that one day linux becomes as easy for a newbie to get running as windows, if that were the case, and it was widespread enough there would be no doubt in my mind what i would be running, but as i said above, unfortunately that is not my position.

I cannot afford to lose x amount of time trying to make things work, i wanna turn my computer on and start working immediatly, and if a new program comes out for windows or mac platform, i want to be able to try it, not wait till someone smart enough manages to make it run on linux.

Hopefully one day.

ps. as to the programs you asked that i would like to run, as i said: mechanical desktop would be great, if not inventor. also 3d studio max would be good, else cinema4d maya or similar. flash, freehand, fireworks, etc etc.

thanks for all the interest!

 
  


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