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gerlinux 04-22-2014 07:39 AM

can not install debian in laptop
 
i am trying to install Debian in a Fujitsu Siemens AMILO LI 1705, so i have put an iso file in an usb stick. I have configurated the laptop to boot from usb flippy as firt option, usb storage as second, and usb hard disk as third. And it doesnīt work.. I have changed the boot order, and still not working.. Also have tried with lubuntu and ubuntu..and same issue..

this laptop use to had ubuntu years ago, but has windows now. With this i mean that ubuntu should be ok with this laptop..

cheers for your help. :)

pan64 04-22-2014 07:43 AM

How did you write that iso to your usb stick? Which iso is that (where is it from?)

gerlinux 04-22-2014 08:03 AM

it was lubuntu, no debian :S
 
sorry, i was trying to install this iso file: lubuntu-13.04-alternate-i386.iso but also tried with debian before..

I downloaded it from a lubuntu webpage, and then copied from the laptop to the usb stick.

i am quite new into linux plus english is not my mother language, so please, donīt get nervous with my answers. :)

pan64 04-22-2014 08:08 AM

how did you copy it to the usb stick?

gerlinux 04-22-2014 08:16 AM

just with the right click in the mouse, copied from the downloads folder and pasted it in the usb folder.

pan64 04-22-2014 08:21 AM

that is the problem. Which os (windows, linux, whatever) did you use to copy that file to the stick?

gerlinux 04-22-2014 08:25 AM

windows xp

szboardstretcher 04-22-2014 08:29 AM

What program did you use? Windows won't natively write to a USB will it?

Ive used Yumi and Unetbootin successfully.

gerlinux 04-22-2014 08:32 AM

i just copied and pasted it. didnīt use any program, i think.

shall i download yumi and try with it?

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Originally Posted by szboardstretcher (Post 5157056)
What program did you use? Windows won't natively write to a USB will it?

Ive used Yumi and Unetbootin successfully.


pan64 04-22-2014 08:32 AM

you can download debian installer for windows too. otherwise you need a tool like this: http://www.softpedia.com/get/CD-DVD-...O-to-USB.shtml.

szboardstretcher 04-22-2014 08:36 AM

The main thing to know is the difference between copying the ISO and burning the ISO.

Copying the iso file, simply copies the whole iso file, intact to a USB/CD. So if you look at the contents of the usb/cd you will see the ISO file.

Burning the ISO generally means that it will be 'unpacked' and burned to the usb/cd, because an ISO is an archive. So you will see lots of files on the USB/cd, and it will write the boot record contained in the iso to it as well to make it bootable.

rokytnji 04-22-2014 08:44 AM

Think of it like making a peanut butter sandwich.

Copying the iso like you did was just putting the jar of peanut butter between the 2 slices of bread.

Using a program like Unetbootin is like opening the jar and spreading the peanut butter onto the 2 slices of bread.

2 slices of bread = usb stick
peanut butter = linux live iso.

gerlinux 04-22-2014 08:51 AM

i am installing it from here: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader

thank u very much! :)

gerlinux 04-22-2014 09:06 AM

coulnīt start with debian from windows, as when i restart the computer and choose to install debian, it says i can not start windows because a file is missing.. :S

rokytnji 04-22-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerlinux (Post 5157077)
i am installing it from here: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader

thank u very much! :)

That is almost like what I did with Slack0 5.7 on my Compaq Cq57.
Running Puppy inside of Windows 7 like a program file.
I've been running this way for a while.
I went from Slack0 5.6 to 5.7 with no problemo.

Quote:

Debian-Installer Loader

In case you would like to install Debian on a system running Microsoft Windows, you could use win32-loader (aka "Debian-Installer Loader") from http://goodbye-windows.com/. It is also available from the Debian mirrors: http://cdn.debian.net/debian/tools/w...n32-loader.exe .



Advantages

No installation CD is required to be obtained, burned/mastered and then booted.
Your existing Windows system can be preserved.

External Links

http://goodbye-microsoft.com/

win32-loader (Debian) article on Wikipedia
This has nothing to do with USB installation as far as I know.
You just download the exe. and run it in Windows.

I never tried this in Debian but Puppy worked for me so kinda lost on the

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coulnīt start with debian from windows, as when i restart the computer and choose to install debian, it says i can not start windows because a file is missing.. :S
Must be a language barrier thingy I guess.

Anyhows. If you can still boot up your Windows Install. Delete and uninstall that Debian program .exe
and any installed Linux stuff in Windows ADD/REMOVE Programs.

Maybe go like I did with

http://www.mediafire.com/?5ah0d0rzcz5cc#wkmzbwskq2sxt

I'd go with non pae .exe since I don't know the specs of your gear you are trying to install Linux to.
Edit: Found your specs:http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/services...ilo_Li1705.htm

Yep. Definitely the non-pae version.

The above .exe is 161MB .exe download that includes everything.
When it asks if you wish to install grub.
Say yes. It will give you a Windows entry 1st on Menu and Puppy 2nd.

It can be uninstalled via add/remove programs in Windows if unhappy with it and your Normal Windows Bootloader is restored with the uninstall process. I know because I have done this a few times already.


By the way

Quote:

aee342b02b5d7d98e9c2e7030bfe90f0 Slacko Puppy Linux Non-PAE 5.7.0.exe
86bdae0fad09417b95522f5d6b777ca3 Slacko Puppy Linux 5.7.0.exe
One is for the pae iso .exe and one is for the non-pae iso exe.

Those are md5sum that I use to make sure I do not have a corrupted download.
How to md5sum check in Windows is covered in Youtube videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZ72LwO1oY

All of this was typed out because the OP is unexperienced running Linux.
The thread title and content was misleading everyone.
So just trying to make lemonade out of lemons on this one.


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