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Old 04-14-2006, 07:34 AM   #1
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buy a new Notebook - need advice


Hi,
I want to acquire a new Notebook and I am confused by all those processor types both from INTEL (centrino, pentium m, celeron m, mobile celeron, mobile pentium 4 etc) and AMD.
Installing and running Linux on it under optimal conditions is a MUST. If it would be possible I would buy one without windows pre installed to save some money.

So, I would appreciate if someone could recommend something and also if it is possible to clarify for me those different processor type (or a good link).


What I need:
- budget <= 1000 EUR
- NO GAMES
- Linux friendly
- maybe a movie sometimes
- Programming, Networking related tasks, Office etc

My main doubts:

- AMD or INTEL
- Screen ratio


Thank you for your help
 
Old 04-14-2006, 09:43 PM   #2
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I am heavily biased but would recommend IBM Thinkpads without hesitation.

Miscellaneous comments:

1. New laptops will almost certainly come with Windows installed. There are a few Linux laptop vendors, most notably Emperor Linux but they're not cheap. You might want to consider choosing a used (but reasonably young) laptop

2. Probably the best website focused just on running Linux on laptops is: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
Definitely worth a visit.

3. In my experience, both Intel and AMD are Linux friendly. Personally, if the only consideration was the CPU, I'd give the edge to AMD, as their chips generally run cooler and offer a better cost-benefit ratio. With laptops however, you need to look at them as complete packages, and as I mentioned before I'd recommend Thinkpads.

4. In terms of the screen, for the highest level of satisfaction it should support the resolution that you prefer on a desktop. Obviously, the larger the screen, the more expensive the laptop will be.

Regardless of your decision, good luck with it
 
Old 04-15-2006, 02:13 AM   #3
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A quick thing i'd throw in is to stay away from ATI graphics cards. Even if you dont plan on playing games, etc, they still can cause undue greif (trust me, i know).

I can testify to Dell having good customer support, but rather exclusively windows based. They are awesome in regards to hardware warranty issues, until yours is up, and then they will (like probably every other company) squeeze every penny they can out of you.
 
Old 04-15-2006, 02:15 AM   #4
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Thanks for your advices
I'll take a look at those sites.
 
Old 04-15-2006, 02:25 AM   #5
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I see that wide 15.4'' displays are trendy now
Do you think that these wide displays should be preferable over 4:3 ratio displays?
 
Old 04-24-2006, 05:10 AM   #6
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Hi,
I've researched the market and I am ready to buy a notebook in a few days. Now, I have to choose between 4 models (2 turion64 and 2 centrino).
What do you thing? What would you recommend?
Let’s suppose the price is the same, the height is not so important, power consume is important (but not extremely important) and that I have no interest in running games. Running Linux under very good condition is the most important thing.


1) Acer Aspire 5003WLMi - AMD Turion64 1.8GHz, 512 cache (L2), HDD 80 G, RAM 512, SiSM760GX, 15.4''

2) HP Pavilion dv5115nr - turion64 1.8 Ghz, 512 cache (L2), HDD 80 GB, 512 RAM, ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M IGP (dedicated), 15.4''

3) Compaq Presario - V4435NR, Centrino 1.7 GHz, hdd 80 GB, 512 RAM, 400Mhz Bus, 2M Cache(L2),Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900, 15.4''


4) Acer Aspire 1640 - Centrino 1.7 Ghz, HDD 80 GB, 512 RAM, Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950, 15.4''



Thanks you for your advices
 
Old 04-24-2006, 05:50 AM   #7
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Did you look in the HCL of LQ?
Toshiba and IBM are (usually) well supported for suspend,
do not know about other. IBM has some linux-friendly reputation I heard
Look also at tuxmobile

for any of the model you think of
do a google model number + lspci + linux

Suspend do not work on all model
I would stay clear of any of the brand newest laptop
 
Old 04-24-2006, 07:47 AM   #8
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I see that ATI has some drivers now for linux: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=76160
I think I'll go with HP Pavilion dv5115nr - turion64 1.8 Ghz, 512 cache (L2), HDD 80 GB, 512 RAM, ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M IGP (dedicated), 15.4''
 
Old 04-30-2006, 08:05 AM   #9
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Regarding only to the CPU, what is preferable: Intel® Core Solo 1,66 GHz, Bus 667 MHz, 2 MB L2 cache or Turion64 ML-34 1,8 Ghz, 1 MB L2 cache?

My second question is if the ddr ram memory from the laptop is compatible with the memory for a desktop? I mean the desktop memory could be installed on a notebook (and vice versa)? Sorry if this question is silly but I am no hardware expert.
 
Old 04-30-2006, 11:44 AM   #10
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>>My second question
Nop, I do not think so
Different number of pins, different form factor

Re processor, rule of thumb, at equivalent specs, Intel better
at massive parallel computation because the pipeline is longer.
Otherwise AMD better
Otherwise if you want to support competition and variety go for amd.
My desktop is AMD
 
  


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