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Old 04-16-2015, 05:38 AM   #1
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Are System76 notebooks any good?


I'm sort of in the market for a notebook that I want to run Linux on. This is the one of the notebooks I am taking a look at:

https://system76.com/laptops/lemur

This will be the first laptop I will have owned.

I'm also considering getting a Chromebook and installing Linux to that.

So who here has brought hardware from System76? How is the quaitly and service?
 
Old 04-16-2015, 07:47 AM   #2
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They are the darling of the internet, they almost never come up used on ebay, and the one I've played with is pretty awesome.
 
Old 04-16-2015, 07:54 AM   #3
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Thanks. I thought about getting a laptop from Newegg and installing Linux on that, but I know that can be hit or miss depending on the hardware. I rather buy from a vendor that supports Linux anyway.
 
Old 04-17-2015, 03:01 PM   #4
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I don't own any System76 hardware but this seems like a great find, and the price is quiet approachable. I think I will treat myself with one after I'm done with my Red Hat exams.
And yes, dual booting or a simple wipe out of a Windows machine bought from retail may be a miss, but you also learn something along the way while making it work for Linux. I think the rule of thumb is to actually get a tad older hardware if you want Linux to work on it.
I just configured my laptop to dual boot Windows 7 and CentOS 7 and it works ok but these are first 24 hours. I am bracing for the onset of disc corruption in the next few months and have all the recovery options at the ready. At least that's my experience with Linux as a direct hardware install.
 
Old 04-17-2015, 04:10 PM   #5
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I never had any trouble installing Linux(aside from a few Distros) since I have been using it. Of course I build my own systems or install to older computers. But I only have installed Linux to one laptop since I've been using it.
 
Old 04-17-2015, 07:44 PM   #6
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I can't speak for System 76, though I've heard good things about their hardware, but I can vouch for Zareason. Zareason seems alone among Linux hardware vendors in letting you pick your distro.

I loves me my Strata and I just got a Limbo with factory-installed Slackware.

Full Disclosure: I'm having issues with the Intel Haswell HDMI audio card on Slackware, but they are definitely Slackware issues, not Zareason issues. That computer's intended to be primarily a file server, not a media center, so I'm considering that a learning opportunity.

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Old 04-22-2015, 11:08 AM   #7
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Just checked System76's website and the Lemur is sold out and back ordered. This must be a great notebook.
 
Old 04-22-2015, 12:16 PM   #8
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Just checked System76's website and the Lemur is sold out and back ordered. This must be a great notebook.
I always had problems with every linux install that was not in a virtual machine. If it wasn't at install time, it was post-install or few months after.
yes system 76 seems like a great find, thanks for sharing. I wonder about battery life of their laptops though. Centos 7 on my dual boot laptop is a battery hog, it takes almost half the time windows takes to drain the battery 100%.
 
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I always had problems with every linux install that was not in a virtual machine. If it wasn't at install time, it was post-install or few months after.
yes system 76 seems like a great find, thanks for sharing. I wonder about battery life of their laptops though. Centos 7 on my dual boot laptop is a battery hog, it takes almost half the time windows takes to drain the battery 100%.
You should A: try a minimal install and B: used tuned

CentOS IME is one of the better on battery.
 
Old 04-22-2015, 02:28 PM   #10
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You should A: try a minimal install and B: used tuned

CentOS IME is one of the better on battery.
A) That is what I initially got, but I need more than minimal.
B) Went on and installed tuned and went with its recommended profile "balanced". Improvement is negligible. Far cry from 4 hours of battery life under Windows.
 
Old 04-22-2015, 03:46 PM   #11
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No experience with System76, but one thing I did notice on my laptops in regards to battery life, I noticed a fairly decent improvement on my Debian systems when I moved from 3.16 to 3.19 kernel. Not sure what all changed, but definitely noticed 30 minutes or more greater battery life just from that minor change.
 
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A) That is what I initially got, but I need more than minimal.
B) Went on and installed tuned and went with its recommended profile "balanced". Improvement is negligible. Far cry from 4 hours of battery life under Windows.
Install the minimal, then install your DE that way the install is cleaner smaller and has fewer services turned on. You can still use the tuned profiles from 6 you just need to install them in the 6 profiles there is one called laptop powersave or laptop battery powersave. I used the laptop battery power save with my 12 cell on my E6500 I can pull about 8 hours with a C2D and discrete, I can beat it in Arch but 8 hours is enough and it’s a lot more work in Arch.
 
Old 04-23-2015, 06:05 PM   #13
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Install the minimal, then install your DE that way the install is cleaner smaller and has fewer services turned on. You can still use the tuned profiles from 6 you just need to install them in the 6 profiles there is one called laptop powersave or laptop battery powersave. I used the laptop battery power save with my 12 cell on my E6500 I can pull about 8 hours with a C2D and discrete, I can beat it in Arch but 8 hours is enough and it’s a lot more work in Arch.
I need to NOT have Minimal Install. I am not going to compromise on that. And I am done with installations. I have full-on Windows and it lasts 4 hours.
I just switched to "powersave" from "balanced" profile via
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tuned-adm profile powersave
and there's no visible improvement over the previous state of battery- hogging. It's still below 3 hours on 100% charge while booted in CentOS7.
 
Old 04-24-2015, 02:06 PM   #14
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I need to NOT have Minimal Install. I am not going to compromise on that. And I am done with installations. I have full-on Windows and it lasts 4 hours.
I just switched to "powersave" from "balanced" profile via

and there's no visible improvement over the previous state of battery- hogging. It's still below 3 hours on 100% charge while booted in CentOS7.
OK then you'll forever be displeased with battery life.
 
Old 04-25-2015, 01:12 PM   #15
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OK then you'll forever be displeased with battery life.
Lol, thanks for the objective answer. Yes, I am one of those that doesn't compromise. I want a fully functional system, not something done half- way that needs baby sitting all the damn time.
I kind of had my hopes high after applying an update and the battery indicator showed battery life on full charge almost as long as when booted into Windows, but that lasted till the first reboot. It's back to > 3hrs on full charge.
On the other hand, and not to be completely biased against CentOS, sound is SUPERIOR when booted in CentOS. Two- finger scrolling works better than in Windows. I can finally bookmark into my PDF's that were impossible to bookmark while in Windows. And so on...
 
  


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