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Old 10-20-2011, 01:23 PM   #1
Kourosh
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No response on LKML about recurring panic...now what?


Here's a copy of my message to the mailing list:

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Upon upgrading my desktop to Mageia one, I began to have a constantly reoccurring kernel panic. It only happens in newer kernel versions however. The default kernel in Mageia is 2.6.38 which is where the problem first manifested itself. I tested it in Mint 11, which also uses 2.6.38 to see if the problem was caused by the Mageia team modifying the kernel, yet the same panic occurred. To be thorough and make sure it wasn't a bug that was already fixed I also tested the system on kernel 3.0.4 and the panic still occurred. In all cases, I tested the x86 and x86-64 kernel and the problem manifested itself in both. Currently, I'm running kernel 2.6.35 stably without any panics.

Hardware:
MB: Asus z7s
CPU: Xeon E5410x2
Graphics:Radeon 3870x2

I also found what looks to be an identical bug report from another user with very similar hardware on the OpenSUSE bugs mailing list. It appears to be happening to him using kernel 2.6.36 so this may be where the problem started. I would test it myself, but kernel.org is still down.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=688741

http://lists4.opensuse.org/opensuse-.../msg03541.html

I'll provide as much information as I can. Please CC me in responses, as I am not a member of the mailing list.
I also included an attachment of my kernel log. Unfortunately, I was given no response. Does anyone have any suggestion on what I should do moving forward? The thought of having to use an older kerenl on my workstation for the next few years is terrible. And having to make another workstation just to use Linux is equally unacceptable.
 
Old 10-20-2011, 04:01 PM   #2
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The LKML is a development list, not a support list. You should take it to a user support forum for your distribution. The kernel developers don't have the time to support the tens of millions of Linux users.

The bug you pointed to is reporting a memory failure. That is, your hardware is reporting to the Linux kernel that memory has failed. The only part that the Linux kernel has in that is properly responding to the failure (displaying the error and reboot or shutting down). If you are overclocking, stop it. If not, replace the RAM in the bank reporting failure.

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Old 10-20-2011, 06:27 PM   #3
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I feel you read through my post too quickly, and misunderstood, or I wasn't clear enough. I was not asking for support. I was attempted to report what I believe is a bug. The other gentleman and I have almost identical errors. Furthermore, we also have almost identical hardware, and both only get the panics on versions of the kernel after 2.6.35, and we both report having normal behaviour in older kernels and in other OSes(in forum post I originally found with his info in it).I have no hardware issues, believe me I checked, so the next logical step is to assume that it's the kernel. I assumed that it was the distro's problem at first and tried another on a live cd, yet it kept happening.
In fact, since flash drives are plentiful and making bootable ones is easy, I used Mageia, Mint, and ArchBang to test the different kernels. I would much rather it be a hardware issue, as that's easily fixed, but it does not seem to be the case.

Some change between 2.6.35 and 2.6.36 and onward IS causing the panic. Or is it merely coincidence that two users with almost the exact same hardware are having the exact same problem and only after 2.6.36 and 2.6.37 in his case, though it's impossible to know which kernel he updated from, but I would bet my life on it being 2.6.35 or prior. I have no bad ram, and I'm not overclocking, so please try to be open minded instead of condescending. My system is perfectly stable in Windows, the minefield that can be OS X on non-apple purchased hardware, and with older kernels. If this were a hardware issue, or a distro specific issue, it would have already manifested itself in more ways than one. So like I said originally, if anyone has any helpful suggestions I would love to hear them.
 
Old 10-20-2011, 07:14 PM   #4
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This is not a bug reporting system, this is a volunteer support site. If you'd like to report a bug against the kernel, use the kernel bugzilla. Kernel.org is still being restored, so it may be a while until bugzilla is available again.

Keep in mind that identical hardware can have identical bugs; the problem may be in the platform (motherboard, BIOS). If the problem were that the kernel is falsely reporting fatal machine checks for bad RAM, many more people would be impacted. Older kernels interact with the hardware differently, and so the problem may only present with newer kernels.
 
  


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