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Old 03-01-2013, 09:32 AM   #1
Ron Vaughan
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Kernel 3.7 -no video on Dell inspiron 5150


Assistance in resolving recent yum upgrade from in Fedora 17 from kernel PAE 3.6.11-5 fc17.i686 to kernel-PAE-3.7.6-102.fc17.i686
or kernel-PAE-3.7.9-101.fc17.i686. Problem started in the first 3.7 upgrade.

Essentially the system rebooted with the newer kernels but there was no video. The system appears to boot normally according to the disc activity. Attempted to go to a virtual screen and it worked, but still no video.

I tried a “tree /” and again from the disc activity light I could see it worked. So I did a “dmesg > 37102 and I successfully made the file, although I could not see it at the time.

Logged out and rebooted with the 3.6.11 kernel and in a virtual file I did “dmesg > 36115 and it also worked. Now I did a “diff 36115 37102 |tail -n 40”. As I scanned the files I could see that the 3.6 kernal used the nouveau video but the 3.7 kernel did not.

Instead it listed and error “ [drm:drm_debugfs_create_files] *ERROR* Cannot create /sys/kernel/debug/dri/channel/3 “. Could this be a 32 bit vs 64 bit problem?? If not...what?? Nvidia driver issue, if so how might that be resolved?

I have a 32 bit Dell Inspiron 5150 with 2Gb RAM.

~~~ lspci displays: ~~~

[Ron@Ronfd17 ~]$ lspci


00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)

00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)

00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to AGP Controller (rev 02)

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)

00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)

00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 81)

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 01)

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] (rev a1)

02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)

02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4510 PC card Cardbus Contr .
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So although I was working in the dark (no video) on kernal 3.7 I was able to find an *ERROR* listed (via dmesg).

If the new 3.7 kernel is built for a 64 bit computer WHY isn't it specified somewhere, or did I miss that memo??

What is the next step, do I just go on to FD18 and not look back?

[Ron@Ronfd17 ~]$ cat /proc/cmdline
BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.6.11-5.fc17.i686.PAE root=/dev/mapper/vg_ronfd17-lv_root ro rd.lvm.lv=vg_ronfd17/lv_root rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=True KEYTABLE=us rd.luks=0 rd.lvm.lv=vg_ronfd17/lv_swap LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet

This is the 3.6 fall back kernel.

Suggestions are appreciated.
 
Old 03-02-2013, 02:30 AM   #2
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what driver are you using for the nvidia card ?
fedora uses the nouveau by default
if you replaced it with the kmod-nvidia-173xx then the kmod MUST 100% must match the kernel
they "should" be released at the same time
BUT not always , sometimes there might be a 2 or 3 or even a 7 DAY wait for the kmod-nvidia-173xx

or

did you install the nvidia-173.14.36.run ( for the old fx 5 card)

but the old gforce5 cards are going unsupported

if you used the .run driver you MUST reinstall it for every kernel update
 
Old 03-02-2013, 07:06 PM   #3
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Kernel 3.7 - no video

Hi John,

All I did was a yum update, which caused the problem. I did not attempt to do anything with the nvidia driver. Because the screen is blank I am not sure how I would accomplish that. My Inspiron uses a GeForce 5200 NV34 video card and I know its not supported any longer. I had hope a new kernel was in process that had the solution.

Not sure how to proceed.
Thanks
Ron

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what driver are you using for the nvidia card ?
fedora uses the nouveau by default
if you replaced it with the kmod-nvidia-173xx then the kmod MUST 100% must match the kernel
they "should" be released at the same time
BUT not always , sometimes there might be a 2 or 3 or even a 7 DAY wait for the kmod-nvidia-173xx

or

did you install the nvidia-173.14.36.run ( for the old fx 5 card)

but the old gforce5 cards are going unsupported

if you used the .run driver you MUST reinstall it for every kernel update
 
Old 03-02-2013, 10:46 PM   #4
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booting into the old kernel
can you look in /var/log/yum.log
to see if x11/xorg was updated with the kernel
and reed the boot.log

and the xorg log
there will be a few
xorg.0.log -- the current
xorg.1.log the one before
xorg.2.log and the one before that

read the xorg for a NOT booting session with the new kernel

there should be an error listed
 
  


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