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Old 10-11-2012, 07:28 AM   #16
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OK, to be honest, I wouldn't put any money in a machine like that, especially (as I think) this is a small form factor PC, for which you need special parts.
Buy a new one (or a used), but don't go for that SFF type again, it will make your life easier and cheaper to have a machine that is made of standard parts.
 
Old 10-11-2012, 09:16 AM   #17
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You can go SFF and not go all exotic with parts,... A Shuttle case, Mini/micro-ATX MoBo, etc. You'd be fine. Even some of the Zotac machines are pretty normal, except for the case. It's when you start going with really exotic, with systems that are essentially laptop/netbook motherboards inside cases that bulge if you accidentally left an eyelash inside that are the real problem (like the Asus EEE Box machines, and similar Acer and other brand machines). Even taking apart those cases requires looking at a tear-down on YouTube... lest you break off a tab or use the wrong screw when reassembling it...
 
Old 10-12-2012, 04:04 AM   #18
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Well, that could be an expensive solution to patch up an old PC....if it were an ATX box, replacing the PSU would be a snap, but here???I dunnow...
Could be cheap to get a new PSU that will fit in the case, could be expensive. Depends on what sort of stores are avaible in your area. One things for sure, it would be as easy to get a SFF PSU for a older dell as it would be to get a standard ATX PSU.

If you can get one cheap, I'd consider it, but like TobiSGD I wouldnt put much, if any, money into a system that old.

BTW, while a standard ATX PSU wont fit in the case, its quite likely that it wopuld work. You'd have to take to top of teh case and have the PSU still somewhere nearby, with the motherboard ATX plug, drive leads, etc. going into the case. If this sounds like an interesting test, check the wiring on the HP...big manufacturers have been known to use 'non-standard' wiring. (AFAIK, HP hasnt done that, it was dell who were bad for it, but its always best to check these things).

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And, yes, that's what I meant by a barebone...granted, it has drawbacks...but I'm somewhat strapped here...just bought a house and so...
Probably not that much difference between getting a system with parts you've speced compared to some barebones system.

Not that barebones are always bad, but they do tend toward cheap and nasty (with horrid setups like the almost standard in barebones 'PSU over the CPU').

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...and I guess that it's somewhat older thatn 8 years...I had it second hand (I'll cut down on that in the future, promissed)...
10 years old maximum. If you want to have a 'cleaner' lshw output, put it into 'code' tags not 'quote' tags.

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:49 AM   #19
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@ TobiSGD -
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OK, to be honest, I wouldn't put any money in a machine like that
...my thought exactly....and since I don't really y want to have to tinker around with old stuff, it's time for a new box...in the (somewhat near) future

@ cascade9-
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If you want to have a 'cleaner' lshw output, put it into 'code' tags not 'quote' tags.
oops, my bad, I'll correct that and keep it in mind for the future.
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If you can get one cheap, I'd consider it, but like TobiSGD I wouldnt put much, if any, money into a system that old.
Hmm, yeah, well, it's standing in the corner now...

@ JaseP -
Thanks for the run-down, I'll have to steer clear from these exotics, and second-handers. There's a reason THESE boxes are second hand...
These boxes should be labelled as cigarettes "hazardous to your health"...

But...what's witht eh SATA drive I bought? Well, I think I'll set up an RSYNC server in the house, since the local harddrive is somewhat small-ish, it would be a great asset. Maybe a cool fall-back for future crashes

Thor
 
Old 10-20-2012, 01:09 PM   #20
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hey folks!

Okay, time to put this thread to sleep. The solution: an other PC, and a warning to the newcomers (and the more seasoned ones as well?)

- be careful of second-hand PC's, granted, it represents a greener alternative, but be careful anyway
- steer clear of exotic boxes, anything you want to tinker on them (hardware wise) will cost ya!!!
- always have a fall-back handy
- don't panic!!!!

Thor
 
  


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