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phantom_cyph 04-09-2010 02:36 AM

XfX GeForce 8200 mobo doesnt boot Linux or Windows
 
Oddly enough the title pretty much gives it away. In Linux, passing "pci=nomsi" to the kernel before it boots generally helps it "find the hard drive". In windows however, it wont even install. It loads all the components then when it says its starting Windows, it comes up with an error, just gives a code, no explanation.

Now granted this has more to do with Windows then Linux but there is no forum for that here and this is related. I wanted to try and run some games that would not work under wine nor virtualbox, so i shrunk my partition to make room for XP and it wouldn't install.

If you're just going to lecture me on the lack of need for windows please to not respond to this. If you have some sort of idea how to deal with it, all help is appreciated. The specific motherboard is:

Code:

Xfx GeForce 8200 MCP Socket AM2+

rest of the computer as follows:

AMD Phenom X4 9500 4M 95W Socket AM2 CPU

4 x Kingston 2048MB PC5400 DDR2 667MHz CL5 (ram)

Ultra LS500 500W ATX Power Supply

Lite-On DVDRW 20X Sata oem

Hitachi 1TB Serial ATA HD

Nvidia 9500 GT graphics card

Thanks!

business_kid 04-09-2010 04:43 AM

I pass on my experience with an amdk6-350 where windows wouldn't install.

M$ acknowledged the problem, blamed amd, produced a patch, and put it on their site. In fact the issue was that the k6 executed some instruction faster, and threw some silly M$ timing loop. But the patch was for windows to run - catch 22.

I slowed the cpu frequency as far as possible, installed w98 as it was then, patched it, and then sped up. Try it.

phantom_cyph 04-09-2010 08:50 PM

Can that be done from the BIOS? I've never had to slow it down before...

business_kid 04-10-2010 11:54 AM

Yeah, bus speeds stuff. I hope it helps.

Mojojo 04-10-2010 05:55 PM

If its a SATA Hardrive you need to change a few things in bios

Go to Advanced/Onboard Devices

-Onchip P-ATA [Enabled]
-Onchip S-ATA [Enabled]
-SATA Mode Select [AHCI Mode]
-Change AHCI for Linux [Disabled]

And use pci=nomsi for linux setup and bootloader

business_kid 04-11-2010 04:05 AM

I went to the bios and selected bus frequency and multipliers. Instead of 100mhz bus speed and multiplier of 3.5 I set a 50 mhz bus speed and a multiplier of 2 or the likes.

phantom_cyph 04-13-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojojo (Post 3931299)
If its a SATA Hardrive you need to change a few things in bios

Go to Advanced/Onboard Devices

-Onchip P-ATA [Enabled]
-Onchip S-ATA [Enabled]
-SATA Mode Select [AHCI Mode]
-Change AHCI for Linux [Disabled]

And use pci=nomsi for linux setup and bootloader

All my settings are like that already. And I do use the pci=nomsi command to boot Linux, but you cant exactly do that in Windows :)

As for bus speeds, I took mine down from 200mhz to 100mhz and it returned a bios checksum error, did I do something wrong?

Thanks for the help so far.

Mojojo 04-13-2010 11:19 PM

Those were the settings I used when I had windows vista installed. However I noticed you are trying to install XP so you will need to load the SATA drivers during setup. If you have a floppy drive or can come across one then that will make life easier. Your xp install is not detecting your SATA drive though? I have the exact same board and up until a few weeks ago was dual booting both vista and arch with no problems.

phantom_cyph 04-13-2010 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojojo (Post 3934854)
Those were the settings I used when I had windows vista installed. However I noticed you are trying to install XP so you will need to load the SATA drivers during setup. If you have a floppy drive or can come across one then that will make life easier. Your xp install is not detecting your SATA drive though? I have the exact same board and up until a few weeks ago was dual booting both vista and arch with no problems.

So Vista might be a better idea? Its not a system I'm familiar with but my computer is obviously capable of handling it..

Mojojo 04-13-2010 11:58 PM

Vista and windows 7 will have the SATA drivers needed for the install. You also will have less to worry about as far as drivers are concerned. However I would not reccomend Vista ;) Especially if you want to use it for gaming. Xp would be a better choice!

phantom_cyph 04-14-2010 11:37 AM

Well its true, Vista did read my drive and partitions correctly, but even after I had it format my empty 400gb partition to NTFS, it said there wasn't a proper location for the Windows install. I'm going to try and see if i can find anything that might tell me what to do. I hope its not just saying that cause it has to share with Linux.

phantom_cyph 04-14-2010 11:43 AM

Looking at this link, (a vista install howto guide), It seems I did everything ok, but it has no mention of formatting to ntfs, and does not show what type the partition is in his screenshots. Is it better to just delete it and make the partition totally empty space, then let Vista figure it out? (can it?)

Mojojo 04-14-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom_cyph (Post 3935441)
Well its true, Vista did read my drive and partitions correctly, but even after I had it format my empty 400gb partition to NTFS, it said there wasn't a proper location for the Windows install. I'm going to try and see if i can find anything that might tell me what to do. I hope its not just saying that cause it has to share with Linux.



When dual booting always install Windows before Linux. Micro$oft has only made things more agonizing with the release of Vista and Windows 7. Xp with the SATA drivers would be the best bet for what you are planning on using the system for. On the same hardware @idle vista averaged 1200/mb of ram which leaves very little for gaming. Xp used 300/mb of ram @idle on a fresh system ;).

As far as formatting setup 2 partitions one for windows and a spare fat32/ntfs partition that you can use for the linux install later!

Note:For better performance Load Optimized Settings in Bios and reconfigure the settings quoted below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojojo (Post 3931299)
If its a SATA Hardrive you need to change a few things in bios

Go to Advanced/Onboard Devices

-Onchip P-ATA [Enabled]
-Onchip S-ATA [Enabled]
-SATA Mode Select [AHCI Mode]
-Change AHCI for Linux [Disabled]

And use pci=nomsi for linux setup and bootloader


phantom_cyph 04-16-2010 08:16 PM

I'm not exactly sure how to set it up to use the drivers on Xp. Anyone know where i could find a link to the needed SATA drivers? Are these general Sata drivers or do i need the actual one for my motherboard...

Thanks!

Mojojo 04-16-2010 08:29 PM

They should be on the disc you got with your motherboard or use the link below.You can always use your hardrive. If you format 2 partitions you can put the drivers on the second partition and setup windows on the first.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_...nxp_18.11.html

phantom_cyph 04-16-2010 08:40 PM

I'll have to look around, cant remember getting a CD. I do have another drive, but its IDE not sata.

Mojojo 04-16-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom_cyph (Post 3938125)
I'll have to look around, cant remember getting a CD. I do have another drive, but its IDE not sata.

I edited my last post to include the link

phantom_cyph 04-16-2010 09:37 PM

Well if i remember correctly it lets you use USB devices for the drivers. My problem is im still not sure which drivers are needed. And I didn't get a CD with my motherboard. I mean is it just the .exe driver from the nvidia site under geforce 8200?

Apologies, didnt see the link till now. Downloading..

Mojojo 04-17-2010 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom_cyph (Post 3938143)
I mean is it just the .exe driver from the nvidia site under geforce 8200?

Make sure you extract the contents of the .exe file. If I remember right you can use wine.

phantom_cyph 04-17-2010 01:54 AM

Well XP is installed now, but its practically useless. I installed the driver inside the system and it said it had an ethernet controller driver but the "add hardware" wizard still says there is no driver, so i cant get on the internet with it whatsoever. And given its a built in ethernet I'm not sure where to look for the driver as none was listed on the nvidia site.

Any ideas?

Mojojo 04-17-2010 02:12 AM

Network driver

http://gamerzredirect.com/downloads/marvell.zip

Audio Driver

http://gamerzredirect.com/downloads/WDM_R245.zip

Nvidia Driver

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_197.45_whql.html


**********Install the nforce drivers from the link earlier for everything else***********


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