[SOLVED] Trouble with Mixer's/Sound after upgrading ALSA on Slackware 12.2

Xmetalfanx · 12-29-2010, 01:54 AM

ok, I think I got ALSA upgraded, but it still doesn't have any "mic" options... I am going to keep trying some suggestions on adding items to modprobe folder (looking at pages like https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...d_Architecture ) and what i mean is options like

Code:

options snd-hda-intel model=$model

$model is in a file (cant remember it ATM) but it has several options... it didn't help me before but who knows ... maybe I will get lucky

again, thank you all for helping
-Xmetalfanx

markush · 12-29-2010, 04:01 AM

Hi, could you please post the output of

Code:

lsmod | grep snd

Markus

Xmetalfanx · 12-30-2010, 12:52 AM

Code:

bash-3.1# lsmod | grep snd
snd_seq_dummy           6916  0
snd_seq_oss            32896  0
snd_seq_midi_event     10240  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                52336  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device         10764  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            40864  0
snd_mixer_oss          18432  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_hda_codec_conexant    35456  1
snd_hda_intel          31232  1
snd_hda_codec          86912  2 snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep              11012  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                73732  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer              23432  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    58788  14 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore              10080  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         12040  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

markush · 12-30-2010, 03:05 AM

I've compared the loaded modules from your and my computers, posts #18 and #7.
They are the same apart from the soundcardspecific modules.

Markus

Xmetalfanx · 12-30-2010, 10:37 AM

I thought they may be the same but (I am not always booted into Slackware) wanted to re-run the command "just in case" ... I am going to keep googling and maybe I will get lucky and run across a solution that works

Drakeo · 12-31-2010, 07:23 AM

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Xmetalfanx

I have been following this thread. I do not want to sound like I am being negative. I just stopped and stood back for a second and thought if some one put a solved on this would any one using slackware get much out of this. I am sure this is a great learning curve for you individually.
This I believe would fall under how to upgrade alsa lib.. the reason I say this is because alsa is in the kernel and the lib and utilities are updated leaving the modules per kernel to be built.
So when you decided to build the newer modules that are written for newer gcc and kernel trees we run into many problems. This is why putting the modules in the kernel was a big thing a long time ago.

This all could have been fixed in a minute by slackpkg reinstall alsa. then gone to slackware current and use the scripts to build the newer libraries and utilities.
we try to do it this way so you can keep you system going with sound.
If I was a newbi I would be lost on this. If I was a newbi before alsa was built into the kernel then this may be beneficial.
I remember 12 years ago compiling the alsa snd modules for the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels.
Please correct me anyone and help me see the light in this thread.

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Trouble with Mixer's/Sound after upgrading ALSA on Slackware 12.2

Do you see the conflict.

Xmetalfanx · 01-01-2011, 02:31 AM

Ok, I thank everyone for the help and want to clear up (or just "complete" some stuff I may not have been complete about)

GOAL: To get jacksense working in Slackware 12.2, so i can mute (or have it be done automatically of course) speakers (internal) while the headphones are plugged in

What Happened: after install and setup (initial setup) of Slackware Sound worked a-ok through both speakers and headphones when HP's are plugged in and just speakers when they are not... ("almost what i want")

What I tried: I had issues (hence this thread) upgrading ALSA, but I think (I am sure actually) I have it now .. I upgraded the default 1.0.17 (for this version) to the newest 1.0.23 What now?: I still have sound through speakers (HPs plugged in or not plugged in), but nothing at all (not even crackling, low audio, ..etc threw headphones )

What I know: ITS NOT THE sound-card or the headphones themselves ... They work in Windows and Ubuntu 9.04 (WHICH IS MY OTHER COMMENT) ... I had same issue on both computers in Ubuntu (I am still having issue with Slackware .. I am not trying to confuse anyone) with the Headphones and the speakers and after a few failed attempts I ran across a post with the sound-card I had listed and someone else trying to fix the issue to ... a poster recommended Alsa-driver-linuxant*.deb and after I installed it .. and rebooted ... the correct "mixer channels" where there (alsamixer, kmix...w/e i used ) ..

OF COURSE the logic is to go to http://www.linuxant.com/alsa-driver/ and download the tarball source and install it in Slackware ... .since many of the suggestions (that ultimately did not work on Ubuntu)could be done on Slackware (may have a different filename to put an "option" in, but pretty much the same on most suggestions) .. Well I figured I would cut to the chase and just for that package in the first place .. as of now, It still doesn't work (linuxant package in slackware ... it installs but it doesn't add the desired channels)

Kernel? What about this kernel mess you are talking about?: Well to sum it up, the problem I have been working on is in (I think I got the number correct) 2.6.27 (maybe not... its the default kernel in Slackware 12.2 ... I did try to mess with the kernel (and yes I noticed and considered the ALSA option in kernel itself ... I was wondering about that ..) not expecting it to fix my sound issue, but "hey .. I have never done it before (built/configured a kernel) ... Why not?...." ...

it turns out that the sound is the same and expect for the mouse being LAGGY (with cursor) but the touchpad, being a-ok and normal speed ..etc .. [WHICH THAT COULD BE ITS OWN THREAD ..

] ... Everything seems fine in the new kernel .. it was a bit easier (I am not going to act like I didnt safe tutorials on the matter, and did it all myself) than I thought... I have heard of building a kernel for years but I never took the time to try it.

Well, Thats it I think ... Just wanted to clear up any incomplete statements I may have confused people with

BTW I noticed that the Ubuntu ALSA is version 1.0.18, and not newer (I thought it would be) .. so maybe the whole issue has nothing to do with ALSA at all, but something else I need to do a simple upgrade on ...

markush · 01-01-2011, 03:45 AM

When you know it works with Ubuntu and not with Slackware, why don't you compare the configurations?

And why don't you upgrade to Slackware 13.1. Well, this would be a complete new install, but is surley easier than building one's own kernel.

There's no guaranty that with Slackware 13.1 everything will word properly, but it should be easier to change the configuration with a more recent system.

Markus

Xmetalfanx · 01-03-2011, 11:18 PM

I will be perfectly honest .. I have no idea what I did (ok I know what i did ... i mean why even after a few times, this time it worked) I upgraded Slackware from ALSA 1.0.17 to 1.0.23. I then "gave up" on the sound issue (I wanted to figure it out, but its not something that would cause me to "not enjoy/use" Slackware) and compiled a new kernel from scratch (I removed the other ones I made ... no big issue .. .but I didn't need them) ..I could be wrong but I THINK the default for Slackware 12.2 is something like 2.6.27.7... close enough I now have the lastest (cant recall number ... 2.6.36.1??... whatever) ..

Anyway that sidenote I think I posted about the mouse is FIXED (touchpad works fine but moving the cursor with mouse lags baddddddddddddd ... and I know its not a mouse setting issue)

I was going to listen to some music with headphones in and noticed that sound (from speakers ... since the ORIGINAL ISSUE was sound coming from speakers even when headphones are plugged in, i did not bother to unplug HP's ... to my surprise it's working now ... speakers when no HP's ... sound only in HP's when HP's are plugged in ... the only thing I have noticed is that even compared to Ubuntu and windows 7 ... even with all mixers set to max, the sound seems like "70%" volume (compared to other OSs) .. I am afraid if I mess with it I will re-break it ... this is by far the closet I have come to exactly what I wanted ...

.. I have to figure out the volume issue and if there is anything I can do, but basically its working great now ...

-Xmetalfanx

ps - if I am the one (and not the mods) who has to marked this as solved, I will do that later, .. I HAVE rebooted a few times in new kernel and it works everytime too (I didn't "get lucky" one time and it doesn't work again)

markush · 01-04-2011, 03:09 AM

Hello Xmetalfanx,

I'm happy to read that you've solved your problem. In order to mark this thread as solved, you may click "Thread Tools" at the beginning of this page.

Markus