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Old 11-04-2003, 03:18 PM   #1
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Slackware hangups


I have a certain problem. While working in XWindows (under Slackware) my computer often hangs up with characteristic symptoms: the LEDs on my keyboard start blinking, the screen freezes, I can't move the pointer... well, I can nothing. Not even reboot by keyboard shortcuts. The disk is working, everything seems ok, but the machine hangs.
After rebooting there seems to be a total rampage on the filesystem: lost files, cross links, bad entries.... typical 'crap'. fsck does whatever it can, but after a few forced reboots there seems to be _a few_ files missing or illegible for the system: mostly system libraries. Sometimes even init stops because of a few crucial files missing.

Well, I said before, that it happens while using Xwindows. I haven't recorded any case of hanging up with only shell on.

This seems intriguing, that I don't have such problems with MS Windows, but that doesn't comfort me at all, moreover, I'm rather desperate to bring my ol' Slackware back to life.

Had anyone of you similar problems, let me know. I think that this is because of some piece of hardware, but I can't figure out which. Ah, I've also tried testing my memory chips, they are ok. Maybe the harddisk? Or graphics? Or voltage? Or power saving? I don't have a clue.


I'd be glad If you helped me in that case, thus enabling me to start using Linux again.

Thanks in advance.

 
Old 11-04-2003, 03:52 PM   #2
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the LEDs on my keyboard start blinking
this usually means a kernel panic, like a REAL system crash.

you should check your system logs (like /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/messages) these usually include usefull information about all things happend on the system. These will probably also point you in the right direction of your problem.

I also think it is a broken piece of hardware, since that seams to be the most common cause of kernel panics (I've never seen a kernel panic NOT caused by a broken piece of hardware yet..)
 
Old 11-04-2003, 06:56 PM   #3
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The problem is, my syslog gets awfully mangled up.
Let me post an extract from my syslog...
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Oct 30 lus kern fallus kernel: p5_mm : 21024380.400 MB/secOct 30 lus kern fallus kernel: p5_mm : 21024380.400 MB/sec
Oct 30 2:53 fallfallus kernel: raid5: us: 1208.tion: pIII_sse (4030.80053 fallu
Oct 30 20:56:53 fallus kern!G00 MB/sented roo3 fa>>:llusem) readonly.
3433.Oct 30 22:13:27 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0xb length 12318 status 301ed253!
Oct 30 22:13:27 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cf8580b0 vs cf8580b0.
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0000, PHY status 786d, resetting...
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x0 length 0 status 00000000!
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cf858000 vs cf858000.
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x1 length 0 status 00000000!
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cf858010 vs cf858010.
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: eth0: Overs3 fallus kernel: md: aut
Oct 30 20:56:53 fallus md: ... autorun DONE.
Oc 56:53 fallus kernel: LVM 1.0.5+(22/07/2002)
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:26:54 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cf858010 vs cf858010.
Oct 30 22:26:54 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x3 length 8224 status 20201843!
Oct 30 22:26:54 fallus kernel: eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cf858030 vs cf858030.
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-0003, errno = 8
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-0003, errno = 8
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-0003, errno = 8
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
Oct 30 22:28:02 fallus kernel: kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-0003, errno = 8
I don't have a clue.
Oh, and messages:
Quote:
O scsi0 ::56:56 fallus xinetd[114tion ford Version 2.3.12 started0 20:56: options compiled in.
OcSetting 56:56 fallus xinetd[114] #1 linkd working: 1 available servi+M 30 20:5:16:52 f/sbiQ,I+kn/gp
Oct 30 21:36:52 fallus -- MARK --
Oct 30 21:56:52 fallu:56:56 fK --
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:13:30 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:13:34 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:13:34 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:13:38 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:13:38 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:13:42 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:13:42 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:13:46 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:13:46 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:14:30 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:14:30 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:15:18 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:15:18 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:19:06 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:19:06 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:20:52 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:20:52 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:21:22 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:21:22 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:26:38 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:26:38 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:26:54 fallus kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
Oct 30 22:26:54 fallus kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
Oct 30 22:28:27 fallus kernel: mod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-0003, errno = 8
Oct 30 22:28:30 fallus init: cannot execute "/sbin/shutdown"
Oct 30 22:28:37 fallus init: Id "c1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
Oct 30 22:28:47 fallus init: cannot execute "/sbin/shutdown"
Sorry for the listings, I have no other ideas but to post them on.
 
Old 11-05-2003, 02:16 AM   #4
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OK, just going to guess a little here, might be helpfull...

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p5_mm : 21024380.400 MB/secOct 30 lus kern fallus kernel: p5_mm : 21024380.400 MB/sec
p5_mm is part of the memory mamagement thing of the kernel as far as i know, so it seems to start all whit a memory fault. You could test the memory, whit something like DocMem..

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raid5: us: 1208.tion: pIII_sse (4030.80053 fallu
this is your raid controller (you have a raid controller?) thats probably why your disk is messed up so bad. What filesystem do you use? is it RijserFS?

then it continiues whit a lot of ethernet errors.
But since it all started whit a memory fault my guess is it is a bad memory-module. But you already tested that..
 
Old 11-05-2003, 06:00 AM   #5
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Oh, I hear the bells toll... I didn't have time to compile the kernel, so that's why it mentions raid. It also mentions several other things that I didn't want, or didn't need in my kernel. Could that be the fault? Oh, I also have an old PCI graphics card, maybe it is damaged, you know, the memory chip on my graphics card.

I will give it a shot once more, I hope it will not hang. Oh, I'm using EXT3fs, not Reiserfs.
 
Old 11-05-2003, 01:04 PM   #6
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It could be that your custom kernel doesnt work right, and that that is causing the hangups. But compiling to much in the kernel cant cause a lockup as far as I know.(so for example compiling SCSI in the kernel on a system whitout SCSI doesn't hurt..)
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Oh, I also have an old PCI graphics card, maybe it is damaged, you know, the memory chip on my graphics card.
I never seen that happening, but it might be. You could try to use an other card, might help??

good luck!
 
  


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