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morphynoman 11-12-2008 10:26 AM

Slackware 12 + ALC268 + Alsa-driver 1.0.18 = ALSA Error =No Sound (Tried erverything)
 
Hi,

here, almost crazy, I am, after googling, reading, searching and testing to get my sound card working. Sorry, but I decided to Post because I don't know what to try.

This is a laptop Dell Vostro 1510. The scenario is in the subject and now I'll give you mor information about it:

Code:

!!Linux Distribution
!!------------------
Slackware 12.0

!!Kernel Information
!!------------------

Kernel release:    2.6.21.5
Operating System:  GNU/Linux
Architecture:      i686
Processor:        Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU    T8100  @ 2.10GHz
SMP Enabled:      Yes

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version:    1.0.18
Library version:    1.0.18
Utilities version:  1.0.18

!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                      HDA Intel at 0xf8500000 irq 16


!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--------------------------------------

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)


!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Susbsystem ID's
!!--------------------------------------------------------

00:1b.0 0403: 8086:284b (rev 03)
        Subsystem: 1028:0273


!!Modprobe options (Sound related)
!!--------------------------------

snd-hda-intel: model=Dell


!!Loaded sound module options
!!--------------------------

!!Module: snd_hda_intel
enable : N
id : <NULL>
index : -1
model : <NULL>
position_fix : 0
probe_mask : -1
single_cmd : N


!!HDA-Intel Codec information
!!---------------------------
--startcollapse--

Codec: Realtek ID 268
Address: 0
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0268
Subsystem Id: 0x10280273
Revision Id: 0x100003
Default PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x34 0x34]
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x1d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x40 0x40]
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
...
--endcollapse--


!!ALSA Device nodes
!!-----------------

crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  0 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/controlC0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  32 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/controlC1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  64 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/controlC2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  96 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/controlC3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  4 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC0D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  5 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC0D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  6 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC0D2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  7 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC0D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  36 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC1D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  37 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC1D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  38 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC1D2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  39 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC1D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  68 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC2D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  69 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC2D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  70 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC2D2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  71 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC2D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 100 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC3D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 101 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC3D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 102 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC3D2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 103 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/hwC3D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  8 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC0D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  9 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC0D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  10 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC0D2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  11 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC0D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  12 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC0D4
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  13 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC0D5
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  14 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC0D6
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  15 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC0D7
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  40 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC1D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  41 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC1D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  42 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC1D2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  43 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC1D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  44 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC1D4
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  45 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC1D5
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  46 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC1D6
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  47 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC1D7
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  72 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC2D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  73 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC2D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  74 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC2D2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  75 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC2D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  76 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC2D4
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  77 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC2D5
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  78 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC2D6
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  79 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC2D7
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 104 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC3D0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 105 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC3D1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 106 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC3D2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 107 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC3D3
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 108 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC3D4
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 109 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC3D5
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 110 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC3D6
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 111 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/midiC3D7
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  24 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  16 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  25 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  17 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  26 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  18 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D2p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  27 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D3c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  19 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D3p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  28 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D4c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  20 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D4p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  29 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D5c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  21 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D5p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  30 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D6c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  22 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D6p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  31 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D7c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  23 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC0D7p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  56 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  48 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  57 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D1c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  49 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D1p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  58 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  50 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D2p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  59 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D3c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  51 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D3p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  60 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D4c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  52 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D4p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  61 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D5c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  53 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D5p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  62 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D6c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  54 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D6p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  63 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D7c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  55 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC1D7p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  88 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  80 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  89 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D1c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  81 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D1p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  90 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  82 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D2p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  91 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D3c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  83 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D3p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  92 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D4c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  84 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D4p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  93 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D5c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  85 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D5p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  94 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D6c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  86 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D6p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  95 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D7c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  87 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC2D7p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 120 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 112 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 121 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D1c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 113 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D1p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 122 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 114 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D2p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 123 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D3c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 115 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D3p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 124 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D4c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 116 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D4p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 125 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D5c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 117 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D5p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 126 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D6c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 118 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D6p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 127 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D7c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 119 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/pcmC3D7p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  33 Nov 10 00:58 /dev/snd/timer


!!Aplay/Arecord output
!!------------

APLAY

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

ARECORD

**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

!!Amixer output
!!-------------

!!-------Mixer controls for card 0 [Intel]

Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf8500000 irq 16'
  Mixer name        : 'Realtek ID 268'
  Components        : 'HDA:10ec0268'
  Controls      : 2
  Simple ctrls  : 2
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 64
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 52 [81%] [-12.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 52 [81%] [-12.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]


!!Alsactl output
!!-------------

--startcollapse--
state.Intel {
        control.1 {
                comment.access 'read write'
                comment.type INTEGER
                comment.count 2
                comment.range '0 - 64'
                comment.dbmin -6400
                comment.dbmax 0
                iface MIXER
                name 'Master Playback Volume'
                value.0 52
                value.1 52
        }
        control.2 {
                comment.access 'read write user'
                comment.type INTEGER
                comment.count 2
                comment.range '0 - 255'
                comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
                comment.dbmin -5100
                comment.dbmax 0
                iface MIXER
                name 'PCM Playback Volume'
                value.0 255
                value.1 255
        }
}
--endcollapse--


!!All Loaded Modules
!!------------------

Module
vboxdrv
i915
drm
snd_mixer_oss
pcmcia
pcmcia_core
capability
commoncap
fuse
lp
parport_pc
parport
pcspkr
psmouse
arc4
ecb
iwl3945
mac80211
cfg80211
r8169
intel_agp
sg
agpgart
sdhci
serio_raw
mmc_core
snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm
snd_timer
snd
shpchp
soundcore
ata_generic
i2c_i801
evdev
snd_page_alloc

dmesg:

Code:

Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel: Call Trace:
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f9177950>] snd_hda_codec_amp_read+0x30/0x60 [s
nd_hda_intel]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f9177ad4>] snd_hda_mixer_amp_switch_get+0x64/0
xc0 [snd_hda_intel]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914b16f>] snd_mixer_oss_get_volume1_sw+0xaf/0
x110 [snd_mixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914b47a>] snd_mixer_oss_get_volume1+0xaa/0x11
0 [snd_mixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914b3d0>] snd_mixer_oss_get_volume1+0x0/0x110                                                                                                  [snd_mixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914a4d1>] snd_mixer_oss_ioctl1+0x341/0x760 [s                                                                                                  nd_mixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c01307b0>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x40
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c0654530>] sock_aio_write+0x0/0x140
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914a950>] snd_mixer_oss_ioctl+0x0/0x10 [snd_m                                                                                                  ixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c016c9ff>] do_ioctl+0x1f/0x70
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c016e51c>] sys_select+0x16c/0x1b0
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c016caa0>] vfs_ioctl+0x50/0x2c0
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c016cd72>] sys_ioctl+0x62/0x90
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c0102a90>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  =======================
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel: Code: 66 90 66 8b 42 06 66 83 f8 ff 74 12 25 ff f                                                                                                  f 00 00 8d 14 c1 3b 1a 75 ea 89 d0 5b 5e 5f c3 8d 86 80 00 00 00 e8 29 ff ff ff                                                                                                  89 c2 <89> 18 66 c7 40 04 00 00 66 8b 04 7e 66 89 42 06 66 c7 04 7e ff
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel: EIP: [<f9175c99>] get_alloc_hash+0x49/0x70 [snd_h                                                                                                  da_intel] SS:ESP 0068:f64dbe34


Of course, I tried versions 14,15 and 16 of driver and utilities. Ran alsaconf but at the end appeared:

Code:

Loading driver...
Starting sound driver: snd-hda-intel done
Starting sound driver: snd-hda-intel done
Unknown hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC268" "HDA:10ec0268,10280273,00100003" "" ""
Hardware is initialized using a guess method
/usr/sbin/alsactl: set_control:1266: failed to obtain info for control #6 (Invalid argument)
Setting default volumes...
amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument

This is my /etc/modprobe.d/sound:

Code:

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel

I tried adding options line like:

Code:

options snd-hda-intel model=dell
Now, this is the result: when I boot Sound mixer is at 0% and when I set it at 100% I can hear perfectly the init sesion theme. Afer 2 minutes more or less syslog returns:

Code:

Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel: Call Trace:
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f9177950>] snd_hda_codec_amp_read+0x30/0x60 [s
nd_hda_intel]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f9177ad4>] snd_hda_mixer_amp_switch_get+0x64/0
xc0 [snd_hda_intel]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914b16f>] snd_mixer_oss_get_volume1_sw+0xaf/0
x110 [snd_mixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914b47a>] snd_mixer_oss_get_volume1+0xaa/0x11
0 [snd_mixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914b3d0>] snd_mixer_oss_get_volume1+0x0/0x110                                                                                                  [snd_mixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914a4d1>] snd_mixer_oss_ioctl1+0x341/0x760 [s                                                                                                  nd_mixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c01307b0>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x40
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c0654530>] sock_aio_write+0x0/0x140
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<f914a950>] snd_mixer_oss_ioctl+0x0/0x10 [snd_m                                                                                                  ixer_oss]
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c016c9ff>] do_ioctl+0x1f/0x70
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c016e51c>] sys_select+0x16c/0x1b0
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c016caa0>] vfs_ioctl+0x50/0x2c0
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c016cd72>] sys_ioctl+0x62/0x90
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  [<c0102a90>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel:  =======================
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel: Code: 66 90 66 8b 42 06 66 83 f8 ff 74 12 25 ff f                                                                                                  f 00 00 8d 14 c1 3b 1a 75 ea 89 d0 5b 5e 5f c3 8d 86 80 00 00 00 e8 29 ff ff ff                                                                                                  89 c2 <89> 18 66 c7 40 04 00 00 66 8b 04 7e 66 89 42 06 66 c7 04 7e ff
Nov 12 15:29:34 (none) kernel: EIP: [<f9175c99>] get_alloc_hash+0x49/0x70 [snd_h                                                                                                  da_intel] SS:ESP 0068:f64dbe34

sound crashes, shell hangs and when I run alsaconf or alsasound restart, sound crashes and shell
hangs but alsasound status returns:

Code:

ALSA sound driver loaded.
and

Code:

Morphy Alsa-1.0.18 # rmmod snd-hda-intel
ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use


Thanks for your attention

acid_kewpie 11-12-2008 11:54 AM

Please post your thread in only one forum. Posting a single thread in the most relevant forum will make it easier for members to help you and will keep the discussion in one place. This thread is being closed because it is a duplicate.

morphynoman 11-12-2008 12:48 PM

Sorry
 
I didn't know which belonged to.


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