[SOLVED] Seeking Linux-friendly mobo replacement for i7 4770, GTX 780 Ti
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NB I am assuming that this adapter works okay with Linux. I have never actually tried one.
As I mentioned earlier, if anybody has any alternative ways of accessing the internet, without spending extra money, when confronted by a LAN which is not recognised by Linux, then I am all ears.
A quick question, then: I notice the card you linked to has Intel LAN but Realtek audio. Does this mean I should expect audio problems, or is it just non-Intel LAN that causes Linux grief?
As it turned out the store's inventory was out of date and so I ordered it for them to bring in. Which is a good thing, as it gave me more time to consider something I neglected:
For my purposes it would be nice to future proof things a little and have SLI support. In the future the price of 780 Ti will come down and I can buy a 2nd to plug in and run it on 2 way SLI, rather than breaking the bank for a newer card to run on its own with (perhaps) worse performance than two 780 Tis.
So I used PCPartPicker to narrow down the options. I stuck to Gigabyte, based on the positive comments about them above. I looked for 1150 and 2 way SLI support.
You do not need to look far to find this information on Newegg's site (and others) for the various boards.
The first one is SLI, the second one isn't.
Both have Intel LANs.
1. Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI Intel Motherboard
Supports 4th and 5th Generation Intel® Core™ processors
Extreme multi graphics support
SATA Express support for 10Gbps data transfer
M.2 for SSDs drives with up to 10Gbps data transfer Intel GbE LAN with CFOS internet accelerator software
Realtek ALC1150 115dB SNR HD Audio with built-in rear audio amplifier
Long lifespan Durable Solid caps
APP Center including EasyTune™ and Cloud Station™ utilities
GIGABYTE UEFI DualBIOS™
2. GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD3H Intel Motherboard
Supports 4th and 5th Generation Intel® Core™ processors
Extreme multi graphics support
SATA Express support for 10 Gb/s data transfer
M.2 for SSDs drives with up to 10 Gb/s data transfer Intel GbE LAN with CFOS internet accelerator software
Realtek ALC1150 115dB SNR HD Audio with built-in rear audio amplifier
2x copper PCB design
Highly efficient MOSFET design
Long lifespan Durable Black Solid caps
APP Center including EasyTune™ and Cloud Station™ utilities
GIGABYTE UEFI DualBIOS™
A good few rule(s) I stick by when buying hardware for Linux:
1. How long has the hardware been out?
Bleeding edge hardware will probably not have drivers for at least 3~12 months in Linux after release. At best with hardware under 6 months you may only have staging drivers, you will be required to use firmware, and drivers will only be at a "get it working" level.
2. How well is the hardware supported?
OEMs that provide to Linux, such as driver code, whitepapers, code samples, etc. will get drivers faster and have higher quality than those who are left to reverse engineering only efforts. Do your research before you buy. If an OEM provides drivers, proprietary or open source, try to stick with them.
3. Does the hardware require lots of firmware?
Some distributions frown on firmware, even when the firmware is openly given to Linux developers and is freely redistributable. These "Libre" inclined distributions tend to keep firmware separate from the main distribution or simply do not include it. When in doubt, just stick to non-Libre unless you know 100% you will never require firmware.
So, thanks to everyone for all your advice. I actually found it useful and interesting. I learned everything from NewEgg (I'm not based in the US so I never really visited it before), through to the various merits of Intel LAN, as well as Gigabyte/ASUS vs MSI and Linux-friendliness. (Oh, and the recent bit from ReaperX7 on firmware).
This thread is probably going to come to a close, since the main point of it is finished. You'll all be horrified to learn, no doubt, that in the end I didn't buy the Gigabyte board we previously discussed - but only because the one I wanted wasn't stocked nearby.
However, I am happy to report that I did succeed in my mission, and with the benefit of your help: I bought an Asus Z97-AR. This satisfies my requirement to have the 1150 chipset, SLI support AND, perhaps crucially, it's been around for a while. It also sports Intel LAN.
After the inconvenience of swapping out the old MSI mobo for the Asus (and upgrading my case at the same time), I booted up Manjaro KDE... and off the bat everything worked like a dream. So, for the benefit of any future people who might have a similar problem, here is my rig and it works great on Manjaro at least (though probably therefore on Arch also):
- Asus Z97-AR
- i7 4770K 3.5 Ghz (not currently overclocked)
- MSI Nvidia GTX 780 Ti
- Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB BK OEM
- Fractal Design Define R5
- Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x 8GB) 2133 MHz (though running at 1333 Mhz at the mo)
- Asus DVD-RW
- Manjaro 15.12 KDE (Capella)
In some way, I was glad to find the Asus Z97-AR: it had good reviews as a non-nonsense board, it's been around a while and some of its close relatives seemed to be reported as working well with other Linux distros (encouraging sign). The only thing I did was to switch off Secure Boot (or whatever it's called) in the BIOS/UEFI. That also reports my RAM is only at 1333 MHz, so the next step is to work out how to bump that up to all it could be.
For what it's worth, I'll throw in the additional detail that Manjaro's Thus installer even automatically installed the correct NVidia drivers.
Thanks to everyone for your help! I really appreciate it!
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