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FredJones 10-03-2013 12:24 PM

Replacement RAM
 
My PC is very good but the RAM "fills up" all the time (with Firefox/Chromium/Thunderbird) and I have tried many things to get it under control or figure it out but now I have decided the that best/easiest solution would be just to upgrade from 4G to 8G RAM.

If I have understood the below data correctly, then I have two slots on my mobo and they are both now holding a 2G chip each. Thus I must buy two fresh 4G chips and replace them. I guess then I throw the 2G's out? Or save them for a rainy day (yeah, right).

If that is correct, then can anyone advice precisely what I should buy? I think I want 64bit DIMM 4G at least 1333MHz, but I really don't know.

Here is what I see in my CLI:

Code:

[fred@arch ~]$ sudo dmidecode -t 16
# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x0028, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
        Location: System Board Or Motherboard
        Use: System Memory
        Error Correction Type: None
        Maximum Capacity: 16 GB
        Error Information Handle: 0x0029
        Number Of Devices: 2

[fred@arch ~]$ sudo dmidecode -t 17
# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x002B, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
        Array Handle: 0x0028
        Error Information Handle: 0x002C
        Total Width: 64 bits
        Data Width: 64 bits
        Size: 2048 MB
        Form Factor: DIMM
        Set: None
        Locator: CHANNEL A
        Bank Locator: CHANNEL A-DIMM 0
        Type: DDR3
        Type Detail: Synchronous
        Speed: 1333 MHz
        Manufacturer: Undefined     
        Serial Number: 00087874 
        Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum0
        Part Number: JM1333KLU-2G     
        Rank: 2

Handle 0x002E, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
        Array Handle: 0x0028
        Error Information Handle: 0x002F
        Total Width: 64 bits
        Data Width: 64 bits
        Size: 2048 MB
        Form Factor: DIMM
        Set: None
        Locator: CHANNEL B
        Bank Locator: CHANNEL B-DIMM 0
        Type: DDR3
        Type Detail: Synchronous
        Speed: 1333 MHz
        Manufacturer: Undefined     
        Serial Number: 0008AF96 
        Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum1
        Part Number: JM1333KLU-2G     
        Rank: 2

[fred@arch ~]$ sudo dmidecode -t bios
# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
        Vendor: Intel Corp.
        Version: TCIBX10H.86A.0037.2010.0614.1712
        Release Date: 06/14/2010
        Address: 0xF0000
        Runtime Size: 64 kB
        ROM Size: 1024 kB
        Characteristics:
                PCI is supported
                BIOS is upgradeable
                BIOS shadowing is allowed
                Boot from CD is supported
                Selectable boot is supported
                BIOS ROM is socketed
                EDD is supported
                5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
                3.5"/720 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
                3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
                Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
                8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
                Serial services are supported (int 14h)
                Printer services are supported (int 17h)
                ACPI is supported
                USB legacy is supported
                BIOS boot specification is supported
                Targeted content distribution is supported

Handle 0x0027, DMI type 13, 22 bytes
BIOS Language Information
        Language Description Format: Long
        Installable Languages: 1
                en|US|iso8859-1
        Currently Installed Language: en|US|iso8859-1

[fred@arch ~]$ sudo dmidecode -t system
# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x0026, DMI type 12, 5 bytes
System Configuration Options
        Option 1: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

Handle 0x0031, DMI type 32, 20 bytes
System Boot Information
        Status: No errors detected

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
        Manufacturer:                                 
        Product Name:                                 
        Version:                                 
        Serial Number:                                 
        UUID: FA8443A7-7ABC-DF11-8211-001A9239FA9B
        Wake-up Type: Power Switch
        SKU Number: Not Specified
        Family: Not Specified


corp769 10-03-2013 12:29 PM

What are you exactly saying by "filling up?" I ask this because if you are using your "free" command, remember that you have to account for your buffers and cached memory. (If this is what you are implying)

FredJones 10-03-2013 12:37 PM

There is a 3 page post here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...rmance-917353/ about some of my RAM problems. In short, when the system uses up 90% of the physical RAM, the machine crawls to almost a halt. I regularly restart Firefox/Chromium/Thunderbird when conky shows the usage is high. I can sometimes tell b/c the machine just slows down.

I have tried many things, but I think for $100 this will be the best solution. :)

corp769 10-03-2013 12:41 PM

Ahh, didn't see that post, thanks!

I didn't fully read through every little detail in the thread yet, but I would like to ask one question - If you ran any direct RAM/memory tests, did you get any sort of bad output?

Ninja edit: After soaking in some more of the details, it definitely sounds like an odd quirky issue. Have you fully swapped out the memory with completely new modules?

FredJones 10-03-2013 12:51 PM

> After soaking in some more of the details, it definitely sounds like an odd quirky issue.

Good to hear I'm not the only one who thinks it's odd.

> Have you fully swapped out the memory with completely new modules?

You mean did I replace the RAM chips? No.

But I would like to now with bigger, fatter, nastier ones. :)

Montetwoshots 10-03-2013 01:03 PM

Replacement RAM
 
Are you running preload? Preload is an adaptive readahead daemon that preloads some libraries to ram. Linux/Unix uses ram differently than "other operating systems" so that a heavy ram load does not necessarily mean a slow box.

corp769 10-03-2013 01:20 PM

Well I would at least acquire a different set of RAM chips and swap them, and see if the issue persists or not. Say for ex, the problem DOES persist after swapping, then it could even stem down to a motherboard issue (north bridge, MMC, etc). Hopefully, it is nothing this major, and comes down to either weird/bad memory, software/kernel, etc :/

frieza 10-03-2013 01:30 PM

replacing the ram is a good idea, though before buying bigger ram, i would look into the make/model of motherboard to see what the max amount of ram supported IS, because if you buy 8 and your machine only supports 4 max it's never gonna work.

FredJones 10-03-2013 02:57 PM

This is my mobo:

Code:

sudo sudo dmidecode -t 2
# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 15 bytes
Base Board Information
        Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
        Product Name: DH55PJ
        Version: AAE93812-302
        Serial Number: BTPJ037001W3
        Asset Tag: To be filled by O.E.M.
        Features:
                Board is a hosting board
                Board is replaceable
        Location In Chassis: To be filled by O.E.M.
        Chassis Handle: 0x0003
        Type: Motherboard
        Contained Object Handles: 0

and I do believe that this link to intel.com indicates "Support for up to 8 GB of system memory" so we're OK.

So back to my original question:

>precisely what I should buy? I think I want 64bit DIMM 4G at least 1333MHz, but I really don't know.

Seems from that link actually that it only runs up to 1333 MHz so getting faster won't help. So I need two 240 pin DDR3 SDRAM DIMM 1333MHz 4 GB modules right? Price in the USA online appears to be around $50. I will buy here in Israel and I see on this Israeli comparison shopping site that prices are around $50 also, which is around 180 NIS today.

So just clarify that I've got it right and I will do it.

Thanks!

corp769 10-03-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredJones (Post 5039531)
240 pin DDR3 SDRAM DIMM 1333MHz 4 GB modules

So just clarify that I've got it right and I will do it.

Thanks!

Yup! According to the spec sheet, that's the fastest you can go, and the maximum amount of supported RAM.


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